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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by matty-tC
mine soon will be around 280 to the wheels.
yeah SC or Turbo will do that , combined with full exhaust head package...lol im at 145 whp right now in my auto
Old Aug 20, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris6877
mine gets a 158.7t the wheels
really I,H,E i assume.
not with just those mods.
Old Aug 21, 2005 | 12:40 AM
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[quote="halfbreed"][quote="acasanova"]
Originally Posted by Chris6877
mine gets a 158.7t the wheels [/qnot with just those mods.

What mods then? Arnt you that little hateful turd that was on another threat talking crap about autos?
Old Aug 21, 2005 | 01:09 AM
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hahahah, he said turd
Old Aug 21, 2005 | 02:03 AM
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All this is doing is making the test procedures more accurate so its easier to compare power. Its similar to the going from gross to net hp. This might be backwards I dont remember. Same engine with a different way of rating it.
http://wahiduddin.net/calc/cf.htm This tells how it changed a little.
Old Aug 21, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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[quote="acasanova"][quote="halfbreed"]
Originally Posted by acasanova
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mine gets a 158.7t the wheels [/qnot with just those mods.

What mods then? Arnt you that little hateful turd that was on another threat talking crap about autos?
Damm, I am sorry if you think I was a hateful turd? I have a lot of mods and I plan on taking pictures and sharing soon.
Old Aug 21, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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* The Society of Automotive Engineers revised Standard J1349, which sets forth the protocol for testing horsepower and torque as of the first of this year. One purpose of the change was to try to achieve more consistent ratings throughout the industry. California requires that advertised horsepower claims be determined using the SAE Standard. The revision specifies that certain equipment be installed on the engine and operating at the time of testing, as well as the use of the manufacturer required grade of fuel during the test. Presumably, all manufacturers will be using the revised Standard for future tests.
Toyota decided to retest most of its engines using the new protocol this year. Consequently, the horsepower and torque ratings for many of our vehicles declined this year. Any changes in horsepower and torque ratings based on the implementation of the new testing protocol, however, have no impact on actual engine performance.

This is on Scion's website. the xB went from 108hp to 103 HP.......go figure
Old Aug 21, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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ha ha im a hateful turd hating on autos? well yes i do hate autos. there for ___s who cant drive (especially when they manually shift their auto and try to justify it) but no with i/h/e/ you will not pull 157WHP. ive worked on performance cars for years (out of a performance shop) and im sure you flip my double cheeseburgers for a living. i bet your car is auto with a aluminum spoiler huh?
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by halfbreed
ha ha im a hateful turd hating on autos? well yes i do hate autos. there for ___s who cant drive (especially when they manually shift their auto and try to justify it) but no with i/h/e/ you will not pull 157WHP. ive worked on performance cars for years (out of a performance shop) and im sure you flip my double cheeseburgers for a living. i bet your car is auto with a aluminum spoiler huh?
Lol ignorant hateful and a turd great combo Do a search moron I,H,E on the TC actually yields 160hp at the wheels 5sp TC.
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by acasanova
Originally Posted by halfbreed
ha ha im a hateful turd hating on autos? well yes i do hate autos. there for ___s who cant drive (especially when they manually shift their auto and try to justify it) but no with i/h/e/ you will not pull 157WHP. ive worked on performance cars for years (out of a performance shop) and im sure you flip my double cheeseburgers for a living. i bet your car is auto with a aluminum spoiler huh?
Lol ignorant hateful and a turd great combo Do a search moron I,H,E on the TC actually yields 160hp at the wheels 5sp TC.
yes, you are correct
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 03:29 AM
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While domestic automakers were pleased to learn the new SAE rating system for horsepower resulted in power bumps for many engines, including a huge gain for Cadillac’s Northstar V8 that jumps 29 horsepower from 440 to 469, many Japanese manufacturers have discovered they’ll have to reduce the horsepower ratings for some of the industry’s hottest-selling vehicles. The biggest fall happened to Toyota’s 3.0L V6 in the Camry, which drops a full 20 horsepower from 210 to 190. As the article points out, suddenly the 235-hp V6 in the Hyundai Sonata is sounding pretty good. Though the engines haven’t changed in most cases, these lower horsepower ratings could affect the purchasing decisions of consumers who put a lot of stock in that magic HP number.
http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000207054762/

Ok, that's it. I'm giving up on horsepower and I'm just going to look at torque.

Apparently the SAE tightened up the test where its tougher to fudge certain things like how much oil is in the crankcase and whether the engine has high-octane fuel. It was already pretty strict on density altitude.
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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yeah, I think its odd that a suposed 250 HP Nissan Altima, a now 190 HP camry run nearly identical 1/4 mile times.......

15.9 VS 16.2

and the camry has 60 HP less? I now take HP with a grain of salt, and look at track times...
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by UnFocused
yeah, I think its odd that a suposed 250 HP Nissan Altima, a now 190 HP camry run nearly identical 1/4 mile times.......

15.9 VS 16.2

and the camry has 60 HP less? I now take HP with a grain of salt, and look at track times...
I wonder if the Nissan has not been retested and it will also be lowered. What are the trap speeds because thats a good indicator of horsepower? I dont think its required to retest all your cars right now just when you change it. Hard to compare track times because location can make a huge difference (temp, elev, and sticky surface). Ill assume the drivers are similar because mags. test cars all the time so they should be good at it and usually get pretty consistant times with the same car.
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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Those times are from car and driver- so i am assuming that the were tested in simular locations...
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