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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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I know there are other threads on this...but very interesting read none the less. This guy is the original author of doing this some 4 decades ago and still doing it today. Most other sites just rip off his study. We are doing it on 2 of our older company trucks - one diesel and one gas. So far - we have gained about 4 miles to a gallon average after 2 weeks of running it.

Our fuel bills run about $7K a month...we are ready to try almost anything.

http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/additive.htm
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I may try this if I fill up this weekend. I go through a full tank about every week and a half or so (though that will cut down once winter comes).

It's good to see that someone has really given this a try and seen results.
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i wouldnt try it on a new car, but maybe an old one after, and only after reading and hearing testimonials from others who have done it. Thats a LOT to read...but I wouldnt be suprised it works. I believe the gas companies want you to get worse mileage. I also think the gas companies and car companies work hand in hand. They could make better running cars, but gas companies wouldnt get as much $ then. Its happening but not as much! The hybrid synergy or whatever toyota has, and the honda hybrids...I bet they could make a car run 100mpg if they WANTED us to have it...but there is no money in it. I car could have a 10 gallon tank and go 1000 miles or 10 gallons and go 200 miles...and make u fill up more...our goverment and american systems suck. all about $ and the owners...

Anybody ever really tried this method ? My 92 accord gets like 28mpg mixed driving! I'm always up for anything to boost gas mileage.
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Ive been doing this for a couple months already and I know Lo_Bux_racer has been doing it with some success. I havent really been keeping track of my numbers since I have changed my intake a few times added a header and now suspension has me driving differently from week to week. I notice a smoother idle since adding it more than anything but that my just be a placebo effect. I have a buddy trying it in his Ford Escape and he claims he sees a difference but he drives a lot more than I do. Ive been adding 1.5 oz to a full tank.

Theres a thread about this in off-topic here: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...hlight=acetone
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$7k a month? wow thats a lot
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$7k a month? wow thats a lot
Yea, we have about 20 trucks, but I took 2 of them to try this out on. We went to buying diesel work trucks about 2 years ago when replacing old ones, but now diesel fuel is more than regular. Can't win for loosing.
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hey sciondad and lo_bux have you guys done these to your scions? Apparently PUre 100% Acetone is equivalent to 150 octane.
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hey sciondad and lo_bux have you guys done these to your scions? Apparently PUre 100% Acetone is equivalent to 150 octane.
Originally Posted by lo_bux_racer
I've had a set of used Supra injector o-rings soaking in 100% acetone for a couple of weeks now. No degradation I can detect.

I added 3 oz of acetone to a tank in my tC and got a measured 5% improvement in fuel economy over two full tanks of fuel. Sure, it's purely anecdotal, but I made no other changes to the car, and the route was the same for both trials AND I have extensive history with this same route, so it would seem the acetone is doing something.

If you look at the curves posted for adding acetone, it may be more effective if the amount is smaller. It is very possible to add too much and hurt mileage according to the information provided, I have not yet tried a 2 oz/tank mixture, but if I ever break 30 mpg with CA oxygenated fuel, it will be a miracle.

Yes, I know about Gumout and a host of other products from long ago when I was a kid. I also know enough to say this guy isn't making a dime off telling the world this works. I don't have to buy acetone from him. I don't have to give him a cent. So that kills 99.999% of the arguments about this being pure snake oil.

A number of others at ystc.com have tried acetone in various vehicles with completely mixed results, but none yielded worse mileage.

FWIW, I think it idles smoother too, but I'm still not convinced that isn't a placebo effect. I haven't tried it in my Supra, but I would know immediately if it idled better because it doesn't idle nicely at all.
Originally Posted by lo_bux_racer
Updated data:

I put 3 ounces of acetone in my tC and saw a 5% increase in fuel mileage across a 8.633 gallon run. I figured this wasn't too impressive, so I just filled the tank to try it at 1 ounce per tank (I used roughly 2/3 of a tank, so there was about 1 ounce of acetone left). At 1 ounce and 14.5 gallons of fuel I got almost a 10% increase in fuel mileage. My calculated gas mileage for 9.302 gallons was 29.989 miles per gallon. I have never seen more than 28.7 mpg from my tC and that was an exceptional run with a tailwind all the way. Typical mileage is 27.6 - 27.8. Worst case improvement, 7.8%.

I now have two ounces of acetone in the tank, hoping I've framed two points with a peak in the middle. I'll report back later what I find from this dilution.
From the other thread.
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Acetone is also great to get that crystal clear shine out of your paint job!
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Originally Posted by TeamMightyMiniz
Acetone is also great to get that crystal clear shine out of your paint job!
Gasoline isnt great on your paint either. Whats your point?
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You probably already know this, but Acetone is the primary ingredient of nailpolish remover.

Before you start thinking 'funny' it was in Science class.

Acetone loves styrofoam!
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Ok so acetone makes up nail polish remover, but where can I find just straight acetone? Auto stores, or do I just buy nail polish remover measure and pour? Sorry if this is a dumb ___ question, but figured it was worth me askin as opposed to destrying things by being stupid. Thanks
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You can get it at hardware stores or home improvement stores. Some drug stores carry it too.
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Thanks. so 2 oz is the standard that you and lowbux are running at for now? i saw that he ran 3 and 1 at one point, just trying to get the best blend here. the 2 oz is on a full tank right? sorry im asking so many questions. rather be safe than sorry though.
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im sorry but i have no idea what this stuff is lol. if someone could maybe inform me a little itd be much appriciated
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Originally Posted by Mizle
im sorry but i have no idea what this stuff is lol. if someone could maybe inform me a little itd be much appriciated
I read the article in full myself and would suggest anyone doing this read it as well.

Acetone can be found at most hardware stores, etc....just make sure it is 100% acetone.

Also, you need to make sure the actual gas you use does not have any other mixture in it to cut it, like Ethenol (sp).

He also has other things to do such as the radiator temp running around 190 deg, using the best plugs, etc. His approach is to make the engine run at it's absolute best to not waste one drop of fuel.
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Originally Posted by krs1516
Thanks. so 2 oz is the standard that you and lowbux are running at for now? i saw that he ran 3 and 1 at one point, just trying to get the best blend here. the 2 oz is on a full tank right? sorry im asking so many questions. rather be safe than sorry though.
I run 1.5 oz. The article pretty much says to run 1oz per 10 gallons and a full tank for us is 14.5 gallons, but you would be fine with 2. It all depends on the gas in your area so try out a few different amounts and see what results you get. Like I said previously I havent been driving consistently at all lately with all the mods Ive been doing so I havent been able to comapre results.

For those worried about paint damage, get a long funnel for $0.99 at your local auto parts store and be careful and keep a rag handy. There should be no reason for you to get any on your paint unless you are being very careless.
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^^ Isn't it 1 oz per 10 gallons?
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My bad...fixed it
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Originally Posted by The_Instigator
Originally Posted by bubblemyster
hey sciondad and lo_bux have you guys done these to your scions? Apparently PUre 100% Acetone is equivalent to 150 octane.
Originally Posted by lo_bux_racer
I've had a set of used Supra injector o-rings soaking in 100% acetone for a couple of weeks now. No degradation I can detect.

I added 3 oz of acetone to a tank in my tC and got a measured 5% improvement in fuel economy over two full tanks of fuel. Sure, it's purely anecdotal, but I made no other changes to the car, and the route was the same for both trials AND I have extensive history with this same route, so it would seem the acetone is doing something.

If you look at the curves posted for adding acetone, it may be more effective if the amount is smaller. It is very possible to add too much and hurt mileage according to the information provided, I have not yet tried a 2 oz/tank mixture, but if I ever break 30 mpg with CA oxygenated fuel, it will be a miracle.

Yes, I know about Gumout and a host of other products from long ago when I was a kid. I also know enough to say this guy isn't making a dime off telling the world this works. I don't have to buy acetone from him. I don't have to give him a cent. So that kills 99.999% of the arguments about this being pure snake oil.

A number of others at ystc.com have tried acetone in various vehicles with completely mixed results, but none yielded worse mileage.

FWIW, I think it idles smoother too, but I'm still not convinced that isn't a placebo effect. I haven't tried it in my Supra, but I would know immediately if it idled better because it doesn't idle nicely at all.
Originally Posted by lo_bux_racer
Updated data:

I put 3 ounces of acetone in my tC and saw a 5% increase in fuel mileage across a 8.633 gallon run. I figured this wasn't too impressive, so I just filled the tank to try it at 1 ounce per tank (I used roughly 2/3 of a tank, so there was about 1 ounce of acetone left). At 1 ounce and 14.5 gallons of fuel I got almost a 10% increase in fuel mileage. My calculated gas mileage for 9.302 gallons was 29.989 miles per gallon. I have never seen more than 28.7 mpg from my tC and that was an exceptional run with a tailwind all the way. Typical mileage is 27.6 - 27.8. Worst case improvement, 7.8%.

I now have two ounces of acetone in the tank, hoping I've framed two points with a peak in the middle. I'll report back later what I find from this dilution.
From the other thread.
where did you find that. What they said.



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