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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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wuts up everybody....so i have alphawerk header,injen cai,and driver fx drag race exhaust and i want to buy the aplhawerk 60mm throttle body i was just wondering if anyone has installed or knows any gains or any info on it.....thanks everyone for your help...[/i]
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never heard of it

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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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I dont of anyone to buy it yet, but the gains are very minimul. If all you have done is I/H/E then i would wait for a couple more mods before adding this. This TB Should only net about 3-4 hp with your current mods. Next I Would probably get your head P&P or order the ZPI head and cobine all that with an emanage, and then try and work on your ignition, then the TB. If you do get it now, hopefully youll keep all of us informed on to what the power gains feel like and how hard the install was.
Old Nov 20, 2005 | 11:22 PM
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this might sound stupid but where can i find the zpi head i tried going on zpi.com but it didnt work do you know the website..
Old Nov 20, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by insanetc
this might sound stupid but where can i find the zpi head i tried going on zpi.com but it didnt work do you know the website..
www.zpiracing.net

www.thescionstore.com
Old Nov 20, 2005 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by insanetc
wuts up everybody....so i have alphawerk header,injen cai,and driver fx drag race exhaust and i want to buy the aplhawerk 60mm throttle body i was just wondering if anyone has installed or knows any gains or any info on it.....thanks everyone for your help...[/i]
You should notice some nice gains across the entire power band. It may only be 5hp or tq but it will definately be there. Like Whocares05050 said it is definately a combination mod and would definately be noticed with a p&p head.
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the throttle body add-on was intended for FI people. i doubt u would see much gains with an IHE setup
Old Nov 20, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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I had a civic that I had a i/h/e on then I bolted on a tb and it made a hugh diffrence. This is a bigger engine it will definately help. The Integra type r comes with 62 or 65 stock I can't remember. The stock civics have 55mm. I put a 62mm on the civic I had and I could chirp third after it.
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Where are the dyno results that shows increases for the P&P head?

A larger throttle body will definatly be a better mod for a FI setup. On a stock setup, you can actually lose HP if you go to big. Its possible to increase flow, and lose velocity creating a HP loss.

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Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
Where are the dyno results that shows increases for the P&P head?

A larger throttle body will definatly be a better mod for a FI setup. On a stock setup, you can actually lose HP if you go to big. Its possible to increase flow, and lose velocity creating a HP loss.

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I dont know were the dyno for it is, but this is from ZPI's website:

" The ZPIracing stage 1 cylinder head is for the serious enthusiast. With larger port matched intake manifold ports this head provide a 38% increase in flow over the stock head. This package has netted 21whp with the stock air filter in stock cat back in place. This system will make the car run overly rich and more power can be found when used in conjunction with a piggyback fuel controller. "

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/s...products_id=29
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Originally Posted by Whocares05050
Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
Where are the dyno results that shows increases for the P&P head?

A larger throttle body will definatly be a better mod for a FI setup. On a stock setup, you can actually lose HP if you go to big. Its possible to increase flow, and lose velocity creating a HP loss.

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I dont know were the dyno for it is, but this is from ZPI's website:

" The ZPIracing stage 1 cylinder head is for the serious enthusiast. With larger port matched intake manifold ports this head provide a 38% increase in flow over the stock head. This package has netted 21whp with the stock air filter in stock cat back in place. This system will make the car run overly rich and more power can be found when used in conjunction with a piggyback fuel controller. "

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/s...products_id=29


Thanks. I'd like to see the dyno and flow sheets. I searched but didn't find them anywhere??? Anyone???
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Are you laughing because you you do not believe ZPI or what?
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Originally Posted by Whocares05050
Are you laughing because you you do not believe ZPI or what?
Mostly, but Im sure the dyno graphs and the flow sheets that they got these numbers from would shut me up. Of course, thats only if they exhist.
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check
http://sciontcperformance.com/
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http://suzukird1.netfirms.com/scion-..._session_1.php

their I/H/E with TB claims 23 WHP and 19 ft-lb of Torque all together. but with TB added it only gained 1hp and 1tq...


im pretty sure you will throw a CEL with that TB too... so i think you would be wasting your money on that crap anyay...unless you get FI...
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Originally Posted by Diluvium
check
http://sciontcperformance.com/
or
http://suzukird1.netfirms.com/scion-..._session_1.php

their I/H/E with TB claims 23 WHP and 19 ft-lb of Torque all together. but with TB added it only gained 1hp and 1tq...


im pretty sure you will throw a CEL with that TB too... so i think you would be wasting your money on that crap anyay...unless you get FI...
...Didnt MMW's Header clam 24 hp by itself
Old Nov 21, 2005 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
Originally Posted by Whocares05050
Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
Where are the dyno results that shows increases for the P&P head?

A larger throttle body will definatly be a better mod for a FI setup. On a stock setup, you can actually lose HP if you go to big. Its possible to increase flow, and lose velocity creating a HP loss.

Charles
I dont know were the dyno for it is, but this is from ZPI's website:

" The ZPIracing stage 1 cylinder head is for the serious enthusiast. With larger port matched intake manifold ports this head provide a 38% increase in flow over the stock head. This package has netted 21whp with the stock air filter in stock cat back in place. This system will make the car run overly rich and more power can be found when used in conjunction with a piggyback fuel controller. "

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/s...products_id=29


Thanks. I'd like to see the dyno and flow sheets. I searched but didn't find them anywhere??? Anyone???
maybe i'm thinking of someone else but don't you work for ZPI? couldn't you just look for them?
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No, I WORKED for ZPI. Unfortunatly for some, I am no longer with the company.

Charles
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^ Who are you asking?
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Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
No, I WORKED for ZPI. Unfortunatly for some, I am no longer with the company.

Charles
sorry to hear that man. i spoke with you on the phone once, you were quite helpfull
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Glad I could have helped. If you were the guy I got frustrated with, please accept my late appology. If not, disregaurd.

Don't be sorry, Im not.

Charles



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