I called Toyota once again for my little bi-weekly updates from the parts guy...

From what he told me, Toyota was unhappy with the result in performance with the blower. They are spending more R&D time to either tweak the design a little or re-work the setup they chose. They are shooting for a 60-70hp gain, not the rumored 40-45. When they get the car to perform the way they want, with the higher top-end, they will release it.

All I know is that it will be soon. TRD usually doesn't take this long to adust/fix something.

 

thanks for the update :D

 

Yeah they better rework the numbers I didn't like the 40-45hp gain for $4500. If im going to pay that i better get at least 80-100 gain.

 

well 60-70 hp is a good amt for the price...

 

yes it is. That's base too. With the right supporting mods you should have a 13 sec car no problem.

 

i cant wait till it's released... i'm on the list at my dealer... MU-HAHAHAHA

 

If you are getting 60-70hp then I will be on the list to. Don't want a little gain like 40-45......

 

Yeah man with that kind of gain, you can beat most street machines out there. Just stay away from evo's, sti's, and srt-4's.

 

well u might be able to kick some srt-4's just not anything awd

 

What kind of racing are we talking?

My 200hp civic would pull on my modded evo 8 on the highway. AWD is good for certain things. Though I'd much rather have awd over the two, it's not always best.

 

well street or drag. awd puts u fast in a quickness. eh it's still a honduh. and that modded 8 must be smokin crack or sumptin. i guess it all depends on driver , rpm , gearing , when the boost hits all that jazz.

 

I hear word on the street is there have been some big shake ups at TRD and the TMS line will take over all scion performance

 

no comment. i have friends who work there.

 

It's not a blower, a blower is a roots type supercharger.

 

So, is this blower for the XB, B, or TC?

 

a blower is a supercharger... that includes centrifugals like the Vortech unit that TRD is talking about...

If TRD really wanted to do it right, they'd use a turbo instead... I'm not anti-blower by any means, the Vortech blowers are great pieces... my '94 Camaro ran 9.56 @ 143 with one... but compared to a turbo, well, there just is no comparison... On my car, it was taking 200hp just to turn the blower... a smaller blower like the tC would use certainly wouldn't have this much drag, but if the blown setup actually made 200hp at the flywheel, the engine would be seeing the strain and stresses (and fuel consumption) of producing more like 240-250hp... in other words, if 200hp blown is safe, then 230+ hp turbo'd would be safe as well... or to put it yet another way, you can always make more net power, with the same level of safety, with a turbo...

i'm curious to find out more about the ECU and fuel mods that the TRD kit is/was using... are there any public details on that? those items would be pretty similar for either the turbo or blower approach, so it might be nice if you could buy a few pieces from TRD and then just do the turbo/wastegate/manifold custom... on the other hand, the TRD pricetag would likely exceed what you could get an aftermarket piggyback and injectors for... just some random ideas...

 

TRD has never released a turbo kit before and probably never will.

 

Turbo setups are both more costly and less reliable. With a turbocharger, there oil coolant lines, a new exhaust manifold, and almost always an intercooler. Superchargers are more reliable, less costly, and simpler to maintain - at the expense fo efficiency. Thats a tradeoff I'd be glad to take.

To whoever said we'll be able to race SRT-4's.....maybe...If we had the supercharger + mods and if they were stock....maybe... SRT-4's are built for boost from the factory and have an insane top end. They were built for speed - the tC wasn't. Just take comfort in the fact that their interior is ____ty

 

If you have no comment, then don't freaking post anything.

 

Well, if you need an intercooler or not, is a matter of how much boost you want to put out, and not if it is turbo supercharger setup.
I LOVE turbos, for few years I have been driving SAAB '97 9000 AERO 2.3L (4I) turbo (230HP stock) and you would not believe how many suprised grins I saw on BMW and Mustang owners' faces...
The problem is that turbos are technically more advanced and demanding than superchargers, it is not an easy answer and with setup giving out more than 50HP there is also a matter of engine management. AFAIK one of the best designs is SAAB trionic and I know some Volvo guys that were experimenting with that...
If only TURBO was available on tC.. BTW, doesn't "T" in "Tc" stand for TURBO ? ))
BTW The 9000 replacement SAAB 95 AERO puts out 250HP from 2.3L (4I) engine and it also is FWD (all SAABs are)