Another update on TRD blower...
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Re: TRD tC SuperCharger news
Originally Posted by Sparks Scion TRD Parts
Two pages of info. Click on the more info link at the bottom of the first page for pics and more details!
http://www.trdsparks.com/displaypart...3&parts_id=634
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Unfortunately there is no much info available other than the general setup. No dyno graphs nor any data on target boost etc. etc.
Well. Hopefully you will let us know as soon as you start taking orders for it
BTW. April 1st is not a good date for a planned release of ANYTHING.Thanks again,
Stefan
PS. Since we have you here, a very specific question with regards to tC oil filter.
Some of the higher quality oil filters allow only a one diretcional flow (contain a valve) example being K&N oil filter... How about OEM toyota and TRD filters?
Can a directional oil filter be used with tCs powertrain?
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new tC badge
I have all along suspecting tC to stand for turbo Coupe....
I wonder who will take upon him self to design and make
turboCoupe badge that would stylistically fit to tC once the TRD blower is released to the public????
Or is a new badge part of TRD Kit? (it should be!!!)
I wonder who will take upon him self to design and make
turboCoupe badge that would stylistically fit to tC once the TRD blower is released to the public????
Or is a new badge part of TRD Kit? (it should be!!!)
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Originally Posted by hotlava1096
Originally Posted by ShadyEye16
Maybe some of you with extensive SC knowledge, can let us know how easy it would be to raise the boost level on a unit like TRD's
Most imprtantly the engine management algorithms/hardware (fuel delivery) may have to be redesign to if the change is going to be siginificant:
In turbo/supercharges setup engine controller controls the engine output in several ways:
-fuel delivery (injection)
-air delivery (traditional and wastegate)
-ignition (DI control)
-vvt-i (valve control)
All of these have to work together to achieve the required result...
There is a lot of electronics in todays cars and a lot that can go wrong if you are not careful...
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Originally Posted by 2JZfan
Originally Posted by Mediocre Generica
Turbo setups are both more costly and less reliable. With a turbocharger, there oil coolant lines, a new exhaust manifold, and almost always an intercooler. Superchargers are more reliable, less costly, and simpler to maintain - at the expense fo efficiency. Thats a tradeoff I'd be glad to take.
ever seen a semi on the highway? you know, those big trucks that whistle when they go up hills? guess what, they ALL run turbos... and there isn't a vehicle on the road that does more annual mileage... diesel's are literally running at 30psi of boost for HOURS a day, every day... 500,000 miles in a year is not uncommon... turbos very rarely fail... i'd bet nobody on earth has ever put 500,000 miles in a year on a centrifugal blower...
as far as an intercooler goes, as the others stated, if you aren't running an intercooler on a boosted car you're missing the boat, regardless of how you get your boost... interesting story: back when my '94 Z28 was stock, i had a buddy with a vortech supercharged (non-intercooled) '94 Z28 also... if we'd just go out and race he'd (obviously) kick my butt all over the place... however, if we would cruise around all night first and heat soak the crap out of his blower, the race would be doorhandle-to-doorhandle... after a while of driving, the blower is hot as hell, basically as hot as the engine... the air going through it is getting heated up regardless of whether you are building boost or not (trust me, i've datalogged this many times with my standalone, i'm not just guessing here)... with no intercooler to cool the air back down, you're pretty much just wasting your time...
that's why, when i built up my car, i added a custom intercooler to the vortech blower to keep the car's performance consistant... at a measly 15psi, the air temp coming out of my blower is 275 deg F... and that's just on a quick dyno pull... when the setup really gets heat soaked it's over 300... however, the actual air temps going into the motor have never gone above 170 deg F thanks to the intercooler... funny though, on my turbo car, even running 2 times the boost (28psi), i only see intake air temps of 110 deg F... apparently, my turbo doesn't know that it's inferior to a blower!!
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Holy crap batman! My old SN here was tCguy! I made this post last year... Who'd have thought it'd still be around lol... I definately haven't been following up on the blower stuff... But FI is fun no matter what
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blower vs. turbo - again....
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I like turbos as well but look bearingsseals go all the time and those rigs re-build turbos like we change oil (cost of the design). Also a stage one ZPI turbo is going to produce just as much hot air as intake charge. So out of what you said......................yeah an intercooler on either helps much.[/quote]
Every aircraft propeler and jet is turbo charged. Still talking reliability?
The company that introduced turbo to cars, Swedish SAAB, was an aircraft maker and SAAB cars are know for longevity...
Long story short - supercharger: a cheap, afterthought way to add few extra ponnies (percentage wise) to a traditional engine, turbo - and expensive and MOST EFFICIENT way to add significant (how about times 2 3 or 5??) power to an engine that has to be dfrom the very beginning to handle that extra pressure not to mention extremely complicated engine management... I would never buy an aftermarket turbo kit unless it was for a "project car" and not a daily driver...
On another topic is $3000 a lot for 40HP gain? Maybe, just remember that a lots of poeple are spending hundreds on body kits and bolt-ons with suspicious 5-10 HP gains... I will buy the blower as soon as it is out...
I like turbos as well but look bearingsseals go all the time and those rigs re-build turbos like we change oil (cost of the design). Also a stage one ZPI turbo is going to produce just as much hot air as intake charge. So out of what you said......................yeah an intercooler on either helps much.[/quote]
Every aircraft propeler and jet is turbo charged. Still talking reliability?
The company that introduced turbo to cars, Swedish SAAB, was an aircraft maker and SAAB cars are know for longevity...
Long story short - supercharger: a cheap, afterthought way to add few extra ponnies (percentage wise) to a traditional engine, turbo - and expensive and MOST EFFICIENT way to add significant (how about times 2 3 or 5??) power to an engine that has to be dfrom the very beginning to handle that extra pressure not to mention extremely complicated engine management... I would never buy an aftermarket turbo kit unless it was for a "project car" and not a daily driver...
On another topic is $3000 a lot for 40HP gain? Maybe, just remember that a lots of poeple are spending hundreds on body kits and bolt-ons with suspicious 5-10 HP gains... I will buy the blower as soon as it is out...
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