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Old Nov 25, 2005 | 07:55 AM
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............and that nice high squealing

BTW unsungfate, I sell insurance. There are ALOT of illegals driving in the states. You can still get insurance with international licenses and/or out-of-state licenses. Oregon, for example, doesn't require papers at the time they issue licenses.
Old Nov 25, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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Thanks for your grammer checking, but I don't see you really understanding the sentence. I am not sure if you are born in America, but using your axx(butt) to take out the intake doesn't mean you are really using your butt. It's just a kind of slant that everyone is using everyday. This is not an English class and if you are really good in English, you should know the difference between the formal and informal styles. I hope you did go to the high school or college here. (or maybe not). but anyway, yea, I agree that there is no 50 states legal CAI now and you either wait for the legal one or just get the one and swapped it out after 5 years with your stock intake.
Old Nov 25, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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rofl, you remind me of the rest of my family. From the mainland therefore, hard-headed. I'm not responding to this thread anymore. Have a fobbalicious day!
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Instigator
Nope..there are no CARB legal l intakes for the tC at this time. The TRD will likely be legal, but the gains will so minimal that it wont be worth the ridiculous price the dealerships will charge for it. IT has to do with the charcoal filter insert.

And taking the intake out 1 time in 5 years for a smog check would take about 1 hour at the very longest. Seems worth it to me to have 5 years of increased performance and spend 1 hour to swap it out for a smog check.
how much do you mean, when you say minimal, because i heard 8-11 gain. The trd cai for the matrix, puts out that much too. Also ... the trd cai WILL be legal, i e-mailed scion.com, and they filled me in on the trd cai. But, they didnt mention anything about the gain.
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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of course it will be legal. no dealer is going to sell you illegal parts. Look for dyno charts for "real" results versus "marketing" results.
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 03:22 AM
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I just went into my scion dealer and the trd CAI isnt carb approved yet, i've been on the waiting list for one for a year and it still isnt carb approved
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SwtC44
I just went into my scion dealer and the trd CAI isnt carb approved yet, i've been on the waiting list for one for a year and it still isnt carb approved
hey dude, do you know how much you gain with the trd cai? if you do plz let me know.
Old Dec 6, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DJHypnotic
hey dude, do you know how much you gain with the trd cai? if you do plz let me know.
No one will know until it gets approved. From what I hear, it might be unlikely that it will be approved because of the "carbon" filter element (separate from the paper filter) that is built into the stock intake is removed and none of the aftermarket intakes offer a replacement. Only way I see a TRD CAI getting approved is if they have that carbon filter integrated somehow with the cone filter, which will constrict airflow compared to the other CAIs.
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I dont know for sure, but ive heard that it is supposed to be somewhere around 15 hp. Again that is just what ive heard.[/quote]
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SwtC44
I dont know for sure, but ive heard that it is supposed to be somewhere around 15 hp. Again that is just what ive heard.
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I really doubt that, non of the "off road intakes" are pushing that much, I don't think that a carb approved(which will be restrictive someway somehow) intake system will be able to push out more then 3-4hp.
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 03:16 AM
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FUJITA WWW.F5AIR.COM pretty good stuff
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 04:17 AM
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Fujita may have some thing there, i like the dyno. there is some lost power in the lowerRPM's but when your looking for performance, you hardly never see the lower part of the power band anyways... and if you do... stop granny shifting.
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by STATUS
FUJITA WWW.F5AIR.COM pretty good stuff
Thanks for the reply but I don't see how this is helpful to the original poster's question. There are many intakes out there. All of them are different. Are there huge gains from one over the other? I don't really see there being much. What's the same for all of the aftermarket intakes is the fact that NONE HAVE CARB EXEMPTIONS. If I'm wrong, please provide the proof.
Old Dec 14, 2005 | 12:40 AM
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I have just found a carb-exempt CAI. At www.scionsport.com they are selling a AEM CAI for $299 and it specifically says carb-exempt on the website. This may be the only one around.
Old Dec 14, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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I didn't see in the description stating what car it's for. Kinda weird.
Old Dec 14, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SwtC44
I have just found a carb-exempt CAI. At www.scionsport.com they are selling a AEM CAI for $299 and it specifically says carb-exempt on the website. This may be the only one around.
that CAI DOES NOT EXIST (actually, lemme rephrase that, is NOT for sale and never been released). like previously stated, there are NO CARB exempt CAIs for the tC.
Old Dec 14, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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have you guys seen the fujita CAI for the tC? it comes with a FREE bag and maybe thats why it probably cost more than injen and k&N. just wondering, is it carb?
Old Dec 14, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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for the love of GOD.... there exists NONE that are CARB expempt.
Old Dec 14, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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^^ it's true guys...........sorry.
Old Dec 14, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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Sorry for the long post, but it's for the thick-headed people that don't know how to read or search.

It's been said before: It's most likely that there aren't any CARB exempt intakes because they all remove the Charcoal filter that is in the stock intake. If that is the case, then I don't see a way to get an exemption unless there's the charcoal filter built into the intake, and most likely that would involve a restrictive airbox.

More info here: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...=carbon+filter

Originally Posted by WeaponR_Ray
My colleague had a talk with our CARB rep. and the news is bad. What it comes down to is that NONE of the intakes that are available, or will be available, will ever be CARB legal. This of course pertains only to intake systems that delete the factory airbox. The main reason that the tC will not be getting any CARB legal intakes is a simple carbon filter inside the stock airbox. This filter is heat bonded to the inside top half of the airbox, and is not removable. Not in one piece at least.

So with this news I'm sorry to say, that our Secret Weapon Intake for the tC won't be getting approved. This also goes for K&N, Injen, AEM, Umnitza, etc.
Originally Posted by WeaponR_Ray
Originally Posted by TimmyT
Gonna have to disagree with this post. While you do lift some eyebrows, you make it sound like every part out there has to have a carbon filter heat bonded to something b4 it can have a CARB EO number put on it. Wich we all know this isn't true. There are plenty of CARB EO intakes without this filter you mention on the market. Now, not having this filter would affect your emissions and you would have a harder time passing the sniffer test. You are getting people worked up for nothing.
My post pertains at this point only to the tC's intakes, not to any other application. Although the tC is the first car that WE have seen utilizing this carbon filter, we're certain it is not the last. We received a notice this week from CARB regarding the filter and a few other changes in their testing requirements. It was stated in BOLD that this carbon filter is not subject to removal or duplication. So that means even if we did find a way to incorporate a carbon filter into the intake, it still wouldn't pass. These requirements did not come into play until recently, and most likely way after AEM and Scion started working on the intake system. True there are numerous intakes out that are CARB approved, and do not have this filter, but then again, they didn't have the filter in the OEM system either.
Originally Posted by WeaponR_Ray
For those who don't know, this is the carbon filter in question:






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