car stalls at ignition and guess what the dealership says?!?
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Originally Posted by Metro273
I'm gonna have to vent on this topic!
The one thing that ____es me off more is when a complaining customer comes into the dealership and expects us to fix their cars, when they clearly know they (the customer) has schitt on their cars that didn't come on it in the 1st place! Then they get MAD when a dealership tech can't figure out what's wrong with it! Take the schitt off that didn't come on the car and put it back to oem specs, then bring it back for us to properly diagnose it!
Also, if you have a cold-start problem, leave the vehicle with us for a few days so that we can try to figure out YOUR problems! Nothing worse than a complaining customer who refuses to work with the dealership and leave their cars!
One more thing, if you have ALL of this performance crap on your engine, take it to a performance shop then and let them figure it out! Don't expect a dealership tech to figure it out cause we go to school for oem training, NOT HIGH PERFORMANCE TRAINING!
I'm done venting...now back to the show...
The one thing that ____es me off more is when a complaining customer comes into the dealership and expects us to fix their cars, when they clearly know they (the customer) has schitt on their cars that didn't come on it in the 1st place! Then they get MAD when a dealership tech can't figure out what's wrong with it! Take the schitt off that didn't come on the car and put it back to oem specs, then bring it back for us to properly diagnose it!
Also, if you have a cold-start problem, leave the vehicle with us for a few days so that we can try to figure out YOUR problems! Nothing worse than a complaining customer who refuses to work with the dealership and leave their cars!
One more thing, if you have ALL of this performance crap on your engine, take it to a performance shop then and let them figure it out! Don't expect a dealership tech to figure it out cause we go to school for oem training, NOT HIGH PERFORMANCE TRAINING!
I'm done venting...now back to the show...
quit opening your trap when you don't know anything.
I left my car there for 3 days
I have a stock S/C YOU KNOW A FACTORY OPTION mmmkthnxbye
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Originally Posted by bkuhl
you are way offbase with your little rant Metro. The supercharger is a factory offered upgrade so the fact that she has it installed doesn't matter. If you've known the problems she has been having with her car over the past few months and her dealership more often than no shrugging it all off you would understand a little better why she is agitated just a little. She has tried to work with the dealership and gets nothing more than a "cannot duplicate symptoms."
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Originally Posted by HighMPGTesting
Hmmm...
If the spark plug(s) check(s) out OK, then the only other things that I can think of is maybe a bad sensor (or one going bad) somewhere, a bad ECM, or maybe you are losing fuel pressure initially. The three things that make a gasoline engine work (that you absolutely must have) are fuel, spark, and air. If you are getting air (an S/C makes sure of that
), and you are getting spark (clean plugs), then it might be fuel.
What I don't understand is that the tech wasn't able to reproduce it. If your dealership is open on Saturdays, you may want to drop off the car Friday night, let it sit in the lot, and then be there to show them. They cannot refute it if you are witnessing it as well.
Just a thought...
If the spark plug(s) check(s) out OK, then the only other things that I can think of is maybe a bad sensor (or one going bad) somewhere, a bad ECM, or maybe you are losing fuel pressure initially. The three things that make a gasoline engine work (that you absolutely must have) are fuel, spark, and air. If you are getting air (an S/C makes sure of that
), and you are getting spark (clean plugs), then it might be fuel.What I don't understand is that the tech wasn't able to reproduce it. If your dealership is open on Saturdays, you may want to drop off the car Friday night, let it sit in the lot, and then be there to show them. They cannot refute it if you are witnessing it as well.
Just a thought...
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A dealer is supposed to be a place where you can get your car worked on either way (even if it is out of your pocket), unfortunately, too many of them train people to be just knowledgeable enough to parts swap and follow a shop manual on OEM stuff only. If you cant troubleshoot an issue because the car has non-stock items on it... you are NOT a tech, you just know one subset of cars well enough to follow a manual, period. And no, not all dealer techs are like this, but the rant above shows that some certainly are.
And in this case, she has a DEALER INSTALLED OPTION on her car.
Again, why I say you are always better off at a good private shop that really knows how to troubleshoot.
Hopefully they take care of it Claudia! I can understand if they have trouble reproducing an issue.. my father sometimes has to drive a customers car back and forth to work a day or two just to see an issue occur. But simply saying "its normal" is not an attempt at all.
Let us know what they say!
And in this case, she has a DEALER INSTALLED OPTION on her car.
Again, why I say you are always better off at a good private shop that really knows how to troubleshoot.
Hopefully they take care of it Claudia! I can understand if they have trouble reproducing an issue.. my father sometimes has to drive a customers car back and forth to work a day or two just to see an issue occur. But simply saying "its normal" is not an attempt at all.
Let us know what they say!
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^^^Someone failed to state they had a DEALER-INSTALLED S/C. That would have cleared things up some.
Btw, what is this supposed to mean..."my car won't start and it will stall at ignition 9automatic car".
What does this have to do with a S/C then and how do you expect us techs to respond to this?
I don't understand why some of you are coming down my throat with my response, when someone needs to be a bit more clear with their problem or problems.
Btw, what is this supposed to mean..."my car won't start and it will stall at ignition 9automatic car".
What does this have to do with a S/C then and how do you expect us techs to respond to this?
I don't understand why some of you are coming down my throat with my response, when someone needs to be a bit more clear with their problem or problems.
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^^ Why would I take my car and b!tch to a dealership if it wasn't a dealership installed S/C?
I'm not an idiot nor am I unreasonable. In fact I took the car there 3 times and THEN i'm complaining. I didn't complain right off the bat. I'm complaining because even with evidence i'm given the same response when it clearly isn't the right response.
I am venting (the original topic about the S/C problem was made by me explaining things in detail) on this thread because now I have the added issue of car stalling.
I am venting because I like to prevent problems that will most certainly arise before they happen...I don't like to feel helpless.
I'm not an idiot nor am I unreasonable. In fact I took the car there 3 times and THEN i'm complaining. I didn't complain right off the bat. I'm complaining because even with evidence i'm given the same response when it clearly isn't the right response.
I am venting (the original topic about the S/C problem was made by me explaining things in detail) on this thread because now I have the added issue of car stalling.
I am venting because I like to prevent problems that will most certainly arise before they happen...I don't like to feel helpless.
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np. but this is the only dealership I trust in this area (imagine how bad the others are...)
it's not that they are trying to ignore me it's just that they dont want to prevent things..."when the s/c blows we will fix it" mentality that scares me because i've had bad feelings of being in trouble and not being able to start the car at night to leave work and it scares me yes
i follow my gut feelings but what else can i do?
it's not that they are trying to ignore me it's just that they dont want to prevent things..."when the s/c blows we will fix it" mentality that scares me because i've had bad feelings of being in trouble and not being able to start the car at night to leave work and it scares me yes
i follow my gut feelings but what else can i do?
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call corporate tell them your problem, give them the name of the dealer, what they wrote on the invoice, the techs emp number... then theyre gonna tell you to get another dealers opinion, go to the dealer told them what youre going through that you've opened up a case with corporate, and bam they'll fix it... i did this with the hatch on my tC cause my subs caused my hatch to shift, and the only certified toyota body shop was telling me that my hatch shifted because of little scratches on my bumper... pssh... well called corporate, took it to another dealer and they got it looked by their body shop and said yea it shifted on its own, and bam it got fixed for free hahaha
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I am a Toyota tech Have been for 20 years. I own a 2006 TC super charged. My car does the exact same thing. I had every computer on it checked fuel pressure done it all. I can't seem to find a cure. It maybe the reflash. I have been in contact with Toyota for help. No cure at this time but still looking into it. It no longer bothers me either. It doesn't cause any drivability concerns so I live with it. I use the tech stream computer constantly and have yet come to a conclusion. I keep going with the flow one day I'll nail it
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Originally Posted by toyoguy27
I am a Toyota tech Have been for 20 years. I own a 2006 TC super charged. My car does the exact same thing. I had every computer on it checked fuel pressure done it all. I can't seem to find a cure. It maybe the reflash. I have been in contact with Toyota for help. No cure at this time but still looking into it. It no longer bothers me either. It doesn't cause any drivability concerns so I live with it. I use the tech stream computer constantly and have yet come to a conclusion. I keep going with the flow one day I'll nail it
did it start when u first got the S/C?
Because I've had the S/C on for over 6 months before the ignition stall started
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Originally Posted by Metro273
I'm gonna have to vent on this topic!
The one thing that ____es me off more is when a complaining customer comes into the dealership and expects us to fix their cars, when they clearly know they (the customer) has schitt on their cars that didn't come on it in the 1st place! Then they get MAD when a dealership tech can't figure out what's wrong with it! Take the schitt off that didn't come on the car and put it back to oem specs, then bring it back for us to properly diagnose it!
Also, if you have a cold-start problem, leave the vehicle with us for a few days so that we can try to figure out YOUR problems! Nothing worse than a complaining customer who refuses to work with the dealership and leave their cars!
One more thing, if you have ALL of this performance crap on your engine, take it to a performance shop then and let them figure it out! Don't expect a dealership tech to figure it out cause we go to school for oem training, NOT HIGH PERFORMANCE TRAINING!
I'm done venting...now back to the show...
The one thing that ____es me off more is when a complaining customer comes into the dealership and expects us to fix their cars, when they clearly know they (the customer) has schitt on their cars that didn't come on it in the 1st place! Then they get MAD when a dealership tech can't figure out what's wrong with it! Take the schitt off that didn't come on the car and put it back to oem specs, then bring it back for us to properly diagnose it!
Also, if you have a cold-start problem, leave the vehicle with us for a few days so that we can try to figure out YOUR problems! Nothing worse than a complaining customer who refuses to work with the dealership and leave their cars!
One more thing, if you have ALL of this performance crap on your engine, take it to a performance shop then and let them figure it out! Don't expect a dealership tech to figure it out cause we go to school for oem training, NOT HIGH PERFORMANCE TRAINING!
I'm done venting...now back to the show...
Your an idiot. She doesnt have high performance stuff on her car that is not offered by toyota. She doesnt need to state that it is a TRD product, she is posting in the tC section and we all know what our cars have from the dealership. Go back to the xB area if you dont understand what our cars have.
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Originally Posted by Nick06tC
Your an idiot. She doesnt have high performance stuff on her car that is not offered by toyota. She doesnt need to state that it is a TRD product, she is posting in the tC section and we all know what our cars have from the dealership. Go back to the xB area if you dont understand what our cars have.
So who's the idiot here?
Btw, thanks Claudia for stating it was a misunderstanding between US and no one else!
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ok people any more opinions? advice? ideas? on what could be wrong
tips on how i should go about this or what i can suggest informational wise to the dealership?
car is at geico right now (what fun another headache lol) so i have some time to think this over
tips on how i should go about this or what i can suggest informational wise to the dealership?
car is at geico right now (what fun another headache lol) so i have some time to think this over