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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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Is there any way you guys could post those dyno sheets?
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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OMG! That's sweet. This makes me want my Stage 1 even more. I'm planning on going up to Lousiville over the weekend, to check out ZPI's shop (if they are open) and the locals. I have a few friends up there too, I just might visit. Get some vids cincytc!
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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good job!
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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a civic si was runnin 12 psi on stock evreything. now thats hardcore

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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by taek
a civic si was runnin 12 psi on stock evreything. now thats hardcore

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Not really that hardcore..
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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WOW... that much hp from 6psi!

Those stock tires suck really bad... I've got PZero's and they are much sticker compared to the stockers. With good tires and not going wide open in the first couple gears you might get a 13.9 depending on how bad the tires were burning off.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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with a lightweight 18's rims and the Pirelli tires... PZero Nero, would be wonderful help for the car... also with a better suspension would be great.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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great job cincy..... i bet a lot of ppl there were like wtf?!?!?!?!?
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Revilo
with a lightweight 18's rims and the Pirelli tires... PZero Nero, would be wonderful help for the car... also with a better suspension would be great.
He already has a good suspension, he just needs better tires and an lsd. It's still very impressive.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 06:08 AM
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had friends down at that car show, and they called me and said that the blue turbo'd tC was running 15's. And he called me that night and said that they saw it's best at 14.6. Dave im not trying to start anything, im just relaying what I was told. But congrats none the less, Im extremely jealous at this point.
Remember, I said that he ran that 14.4 his first run. There was not that many people around to see it. I have the time slip to prove it. I will try to get it on here as soon as possible. Also remember that it was extremely hot that day, so for him to beat on my car to consistantly get a 14.4 was not worth the hastle. I would rather him run a slower time knowing that he will not be putting stress on the car. The Kit is built well and has not given me serious problems, so why start now. He knew that my car was able to run 13's, but we did not have the tires to try. We were racing in a bracket style race, that is were you go for a consistant time not a fast time, so we chose to dial in at 14.6, it was a very comfortable number that we knew the car would hit every time. As for the 15 sec run, there were two, one was because he had a bad start, and the other was because he missed 3rd gear and a car was coming into his lane. So be very jealous, LOL. I am going to try to run my car at the track this friday at edgewater, give me a call, and we might be able to meet up. I cant wait to show all of you my time slips when i hit 13's i will be so happy, then 12's then 11's o it can go on and on.

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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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I have had a very positive outlook on these kits... however, I am a bit bothered by the fact that they will not post a dyno sheet for any of this. I would think by this time they would want to prove this amazing output from such a low boost number. And I would love to see that. Again, not doubting or bashing cincy at all, I hope it is all true and works great. But so far the only numbers I have seen are word of mouth from ZPI and one new user to scionlife with a kit. I think heard them say at one point that they would not post the dyno previous to release to prevent reverse engineering. Well, there is one on the street now so there is no reason not to. Call me skeptical, but I wont be spending $3000 on anything I cant see proof of operation on.

Again, not bashing ZPI or anyone else for that matter, I just want to see these numbers posted!
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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here's the dyno from the ZPI shop car's dyno, I assume cincy also dynoed at automotion too here in Louisville. They posted up this graph a long time ago, along with a graph on the car running more boost, or aka stage 1.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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Thanks for posting that.

That is one awful smooth dyno plot though.... again, skeptical I know, but i have never seen one that looked that perfectly generated. No dips, perfectly smooth, very strange.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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I can understand why your skeptical, but there was also a video posted: http://www.zpiracing.net/sciondyno.WMV
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cincytc
had friends down at that car show, and they called me and said that the blue turbo'd tC was running 15's. And he called me that night and said that they saw it's best at 14.6. Dave im not trying to start anything, im just relaying what I was told. But congrats none the less, Im extremely jealous at this point.
Remember, I said that he ran that 14.4 his first run. There was not that many people around to see it. I have the time slip to prove it. I will try to get it on here as soon as possible. Also remember that it was extremely hot that day, so for him to beat on my car to consistantly get a 14.4 was not worth the hastle. I would rather him run a slower time knowing that he will not be putting stress on the car. The Kit is built well and has not given me serious problems, so why start now. He knew that my car was able to run 13's, but we did not have the tires to try. We were racing in a bracket style race, that is were you go for a consistant time not a fast time, so we chose to dial in at 14.6, it was a very comfortable number that we knew the car would hit every time. As for the 15 sec run, there were two, one was because he had a bad start, and the other was because he missed 3rd gear and a car was coming into his lane. So be very jealous, LOL. I am going to try to run my car at the track this friday at edgewater, give me a call, and we might be able to meet up. I cant wait to show all of you my time slips when i hit 13's i will be so happy, then 12's then 11's o it can go on and on.

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David

sounds good to me David. not bashin you, trust me im jealous. Let me know about Friday for sure, and get some tires cause i'd like to see a stage 0 in the 13's. oh the thought of that is just grand. And that is such a beautfully solid power band on the dyno. very good work.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GoSwim
I can understand why your skeptical, but there was also a video posted: http://www.zpiracing.net/sciondyno.WMV
Enough said. Thanks for the link! Call me a tech geek.. but I like to see valid numbers. So that just bumped my faith in them! Thanks again.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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I am going down to ZPI on friday to get my s-pipe and exhaust put on. I will bring my dyno sheets with me so we can take pics and put them on here and my track times.

Thanks,
David
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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damn, that's coming along nicely. I want a turbo...
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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daaamn..thats amazing! i wish zpi was in houston =(..i noticed on the dyno sheet that u hav a FMIC..stage 0 doesnt require an intercooler does it? if it doesnt mayb thats why ur putting out so..much..powerrrrr *drools* lol
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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You will see on my sheet that I make more power than that with the same options, except, I am running 6psi. The stage 0 does not come with the FM, I choose to get that because I do a lot of highway driving. Want to keep my turbo as cool as possible in this terrible heat. You will see when I upload my picks on Friday.

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