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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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does anyone know the dimension of our stock exhaust, just the axleback?
just the width and the length would be fine. i don't need the height.

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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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anybody? rough estimate?
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22925 There you go man, the section your looking for is labeled pipe 3 I believe.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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And for length I would say from 2' to 2.5' from the midpipe to muffler but its in a s shape so kinda hard to measure it, I just eyeballed it
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Stock pipe is 2.25". I was debating about its size in another thread. There are several threads that mention this, though I have not measured it my self. It is also crush bent, not mandrel bent.
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OK lets put this to rest once and for all!
I just spent 20min in a moskito infested storage room at work with a measuring tape.

the results are...interesting.

here are the measurements...
the S-pipe goes from "2.5" inches and shrinks down to "2" inches!!!
the MID-pipe starts at the point were it bolts on to the spipe at "2.5" inches(surprise surprise!) and taperes down to about 2.43 at its end. the TC's entire exhaust system is MANDREL BENT this "ain't" no honda or cobalt... the S-pipe IS crushed(NOT crushed bent) at certain places just for shear spite operantly.

well thats it. Length of stock exhaust you say...get under your @#%! damn car your self and measure it for your self! i ain't going back in that storage room till i have to...
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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You are the first to say that it's mandrel bent, how do you know this? From everything I read, everyone says it's crush bent, and I've been searching for a while due to my indecisiveness in choosing an exhaust. Also, there is no way our exhaust is 2.5" or even 2.43", that is impossible. Are you measuring the inside or the outside of the exhaust? You also have to take into consideration the wall thickness. Last, if the magnaflow exhaust is 2.5" at the point where our mid-pipe is cut, our mid-pipe obviously can not be 2.5" because the magnaflow would not fit over our mid-pipe.
http://www.magnaflow.com/07techtips/pdfs/16640.pdf

It may look like it's 2.5" but the actual inside diameter is 2.25".
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Hey let me jump in & add to the confusion ...

OK, from what I remember months ago rough checking OD on exhaust ...

S-pipe starts at 2.5", ends at 2.25".

Midpipe is 2.25" whole way.

Axleback is 2.25" into muffler, 2.5" out (tail pipe).

Magnaflow must have a typo, can't see that clamp being 2.5" just behind the cat.

Remember these are all OD's, and from memory <--disclaimer!
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Well i hate to differ but i was the one sweating in that damned storage room swating bugs!

the OEM S-pipe starts at 2.5(internal) and actually ends in a reducer with a copper ring gasket!! at 2" internal diameter.

the OEM Mid-pipe starts at 2.5 and comes out after the bulb cat at 2.41-3 exterior diameter this is why magnaflows "2.5" "slip on" system works well with it...how? do some math and figure it out!

I don't mean to be too much of a *****, but i did not go into this festering moskito hole for nothing.

The TC's OEM exhaust is MANDREL BENT...how do i know? you say?...because i know exhausts, just how i knew the stock exhaust was not 2.25 from looking at it. I know the difference between mandrel bends, crush bends and stretch bends...i ca tell by simply looking at it.
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Originally Posted by Mid_Life_tC-risis
Hey let me jump in & add to the confusion ...

OK, from what I remember months ago rough checking OD on exhaust ...

S-pipe starts at 2.5", ends at 2.25".

Midpipe is 2.25" whole way.

Axleback is 2.25" into muffler, 2.5" out (tail pipe).

Magnaflow must have a typo, can't see that clamp being 2.5" just behind the cat.

Remember these are all OD's, and from memory <--disclaimer!

I remember someone saying that the I/D of the piping is around 2.12" or something, that would make sense if the O/D is 2.25".

No thats not a typo, they came out with the exhaust almost 2 years ago and have a thread in here somewhere. It fits directly on the mid-pipe and gives you 2.25" I/D. Excellent exhaust too, gives you like 6-7HP with everything stock. I just didnt want to chop my pipe., plus a little pricey.

Megan OE-RS is 2.25", it's supposed to retain stock dimenshions and fit (hence the OE).
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mugetsu
Well i hate to differ but i was the one sweating in that damned storage room swating bugs!

the OEM S-pipe starts at 2.5(internal) and actually ends in a reducer with a copper ring gasket!! at 2" internal diameter.

the OEM Mid-pipe starts at 2.5 and comes out after the bulb cat at 2.41-3 exterior diameter this is why magnaflows "2.5" "slip on" system works well with it...how? do some math and figure it out!

I don't mean to be too much of a *****, but i did not go into this festering moskito hole for nothing.

The TC's OEM exhaust is MANDREL BENT...how do i know? you say?...because i know exhausts, just how i knew the stock exhaust was not 2.25 from looking at it. I know the difference between mandrel bends, crush bends and stretch bends...i ca tell by simply looking at it.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43337

Here you go. They all state and confirm that our exhaust is 2.25" stock. People in that thread include, Precision Muffler, Creative Compacts(Pro-Motion Tunning), and of course Magnaflow. It is also stated that their system, Unlike the stock, is mandrel bent. I understand if you may not want to take my word for it, but those three you can not argue with, they live exhausts. Not to mention Megan's OE-RS has stock dimensions but is mandrel bent, and is 2.25".

So as much as I believe your expertise and uncanny knack of determining things just by glancing at them, maybe this instance it failed you.
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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well guess what, your right i can't argue against ignorance and mass public misinformation.

notice one thing, ALL those so called "experts" that "live and breathe" exhaust that you listed have one thing in common...
they are all "DOMESTIC" manufacturers...hey would you look at that. in their infinite knowledge they only know(or better yet want YOU to think) that all that exists is 2.25 2.5 3" 4"(for big ol diesel yeehaaw) PLUS they wan't you at all costs to believe that your stock exhaust is junk(which in a way it is)and you need to buy theirs...so they'll tell you anything YOU wanna believe...

Kinda funny that all "JAPANESE" manufactures of after market exhausts for our car(Greddy,tanabe,HKS) use 60mm piping which is what around 2.35-7 inches...HMM... I wonder why? could it be so that it matches with the OEM stock MID-PIPE...wow thats just too crazy to believe!

what ever man i'm through with you, i gave you the chance to measure the OEM pipe your self and what...you couldn't find a tape measure...pathetic...SO i go outta my way and measure it for you(which i didn't really even have to do i can just look at it and tell, NOR do i need some one to tell me) and what you call me a lier and throw a bunch of domestic manufactures(which don't know chit about our car) in my face...real cute.And by the way...if you can't tell the difference between a mandrel bend and a crush bend by looking at it and then rely on some bozos to tell you what is what instead off finding out your self...then...

any who you keep believing hearsay and what everyone WANTS you to believe and be happy.
i'm done from now on all you'll get from me is this... and sadly...
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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*grabs popcorn and pops open a coke* You tell him Mugetsu! :D
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lol What can I say, your eloquence and expertise in Japanese/Domestic exhausts has made me a believer. Forget that Magnaflow is just as reputable of an exhaust company as all of these Japanese companies you mentioned. I mean they only specialize in one area, the exhaust, as opposed to wide range of performance modification as in the case of the other companies. Their 25 years of R&D, and they still haven't figured out that the different specs overseas do not match our dimensions. I know! I will go back to that thread and inform them, hopefully they'll get it right for the '08 models.

It's also so baffling that they use the metric system, 60mm, 65mm, 70mm, 75mm, man, so confusing. I mean no wonder they drive on the wrong side of the road, they are all screwed up over there.

Plus, it must be a conspiracy anyway, all these domestic manufacturers telling us lies, and imploring to purchase their exhausts, only if we lived in Japan, things are different there. Their cars come out with this awesome piping right out of their cars, 60mm, no one tries to upsell you anything. And their brutal honesty in exhausts is just eye opening, they will never upsell. Common, who is with me??? Let's all move to Japan, it's heaven over seas!

Hey anyway, thats pretty cool that you can just look at a pipe and see what the dimensions are and how it was bent. Do you have x-ray vision too? Cause that would pretty neat. Hey, wait a minute, can you actually bend the pipes with your eyes? We can open up a shop, we'll make a lot of money. We'll only sell JDM stuff though, I know how much your anti-domestic and all. Let me know, I am drawing up our shop specs right now (don't worry they are all in meters)....
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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Stop bickering guys... It's going nowhere. Someone out their money where their mouth is and measure the damn pipe! I'd measure mine, but it's modified.
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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Its not that easy to measure it, it has different dimensions at different points but 2.25" on the majority of the piping. This has already been established in more than one thread, but Majetsu's x-ray vision say it's other wise. Cmon Majetsu, we can make a lot of money, with your x-ray vision, atleast consider my idea...
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Originally Posted by djct_watt
Stop bickering guys... It's going nowhere. Someone out their money where their mouth is and measure the damn pipe! I'd measure mine, but it's modified.
The one talking all the junk, couldn't find a tape measure to do it! how cute is that aww...
So i had to do it myself, yet he doesn't believe me,but yet he believes everything that giant corps that probably didn't even bother to measure the specs on the tc they just used the ones from a civic tells him. hes so smart its tear inducing...

so now he resorts to silly nanny styled kiddy insults cause hes to much of a queer to measure it himself "cause its hard with all the piping WAA!" yet he is sure its 2.25 because his all american(stands up and salutes) companies told him so. dude!

what a Pu$$y. and FYI i'm an expert in both domestic and import performance because i get off my a$$ and do the real time research my self. i don't need to read some thing off a forum then run off and recite it to someone like its the god given truth because maganflow told him...

what a friggin loser

edit: djct i hope you can tell this was not directed at you...
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Originally Posted by Mugetsu
Originally Posted by djct_watt
Stop bickering guys... It's going nowhere. Someone out their money where their mouth is and measure the damn pipe! I'd measure mine, but it's modified.
The one talking all the junk, couldn't find a tape measure to do it! how cute is that aww...
So i had to do it myself, yet he doesn't believe me,but yet he believes everything that giant corps that probably didn't even bother to measure the specs on the tc they just used the ones from a civic tells him. hes so smart its tear inducing...

so now he resorts to silly nanny styled kiddy insults cause hes to much of a queer to measure it himself "cause its hard with all the piping WAA!" yet he is sure its 2.25 because his all american(stands up and salutes) companies told him so. dude!

what a Pu$$y. and FYI i'm an expert in both domestic and import performance because i get off my a$$ and do the real time research my self. i don't need to read some thing off a forum then run off and recite it to someone like its the god given truth because maganflow told him...

what a friggin loser
Dude, quit harshing on him. You know everything is measured in inches. Even MERCURY is measured in inches. (inHg)
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*Runs and grabs a box of Sno Caps* :D I wonder how long this can go before it gets locked.
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Originally Posted by amdforever
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22925 There you go man, the section your looking for is labeled pipe 3 I believe.
Holy crap amdf i just noticed everything that i'm trying to explain to this doofus is pretty much proven in this link you posted...and here i am wasting my breath on this twerp...(sigh)

he prob wouldn't be able to understand anything written on there anyways its much more complicated than Dragon ball jokes...



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