Does anyone know what it takes to convert the tC to E85... i know that E85 has to have the right fuel pump, fuel lines and the right size parts in the carb. but where would i find the parts to do so? and has anyone else done or thought of this?

 

Your probably going to need to switch your CARB out for a holley 650 or something..

 

Seriously?

Why?

 

Why would you even want to do this?

 

Hope you're kidding...

 

double pumper...

 

Even more than needing to swap out pump, lines, and carb or injectors, ALL parts of the vehicle that come in direct contact with the fuel have to be designed for use with the hydrophilic fuel to prevent corrosion or solvent action on seals, etc.

This would mean adding the fuel tank and evaporative control system in the list, at least...

 

i suggest running a twin 4bbl double pumper carb setup

 

Izz geets muh carbonator frum hawley!

 

1050 dominator FTW

 

Well two reasons... you can get more power and you can buy it for like 85 cents a gallon

 

and you'll take a hit on your mpgs...

 

Why do this? Well, 1st of all you'll gain more HP/TQ, 2nd you'll see a slight increase in MPG, and 3rd E85 is much cheaper than standard gasoline...

O, BTW fellas, there's a few companies that offer full conversion kits for numerous cars/trucks, fuel injected, or carb...

Do some research before giving an opinion on other ppl's ideas...


EDIT: I also should add that this is a hot topic with people on both sides. Some say it's impractical and others have done the conversion with no problems. To do the conversion right, it does take a good amount of money and there's more to it than the little conversion kits you'll see for cheap $$$.

 

So why would you spend potentially thousands of dollars to refit this E85 system to the tC to spend less on gas?

I can sort of understand the "more power" argument... but unless someone has some numbers for the tC that show a pretty significant gain, it would be retarded to bother. If you want more power, go turbo. If you want better gas mileage, take your foot off the gas.

They don't even sell E85 around me that I know of... so I wouldn't ever bother anyway. But it seems like a lot of work for an unknown power gain and cheaper gas.

 

I can't see the benefits of this. Are there at least gas stations in your area that have the stuff? I can't see a huge power jump for a car like ours. Usually I see E85 used on cars with either large engines or turbo'd cars. I frequent evo and suby forums and see a lot of stuff on people using E85 there.

Maybe if you were running a pretty high powered setup with a huge turbo and built motor I might understand if you were planning on racing the car or something? Otherwise meh..well..to each his own..

 

E85 will NOT improve fuel mileage.

As there is 27% less energy per gallon with E85 than there is with gasoline, it will take 138% of the amount of gasoline for E85 to perform the same amount of work.

Even though E85, where it is even available, often costs up to 15% less that straight gasoline, since it takes more of it to perform the same amount of work the overall cost is higher to run on E85.

Additionally, E85 has limited availability, and conversions to allow the use of E85 on cars that were not originally designed to operate on it are quite expensive.

Overall: Net loss.

 

^^^ enough said!!!

 

It is quite simple to convert a Tc to run E85. I did a lot of research on this and tried many different setups to figure out what would work best. I also did before and after dyno testing. You will see a 5% increase in power throughout the power band. E85 is still cheaper to run in my area even after you figure out the mpg loss. My Tc now gets about 15 mpg in the city on E85.
What you will need:
Walbro fuel pump #gss342
TRD Supercharger injectors 410cc (deatschwerks 440 should work fine I just never tested them)
Optional but recommended: NGK BKR5EIX spark plugs.

I have been running this setup for 7 months with no problems.


-Jeremy

 

The octane of E85 is much higher than gas as well, which is why those evo and subie owners use it on their rides, but with higher consumption to get the same hp means larger injectors. the problem is that E85 might end up like the old betamax players of years ago or hd dvds losing to blu-ray.

 

There was an article in Modified or something that discussed tuning on E85. I got 10 bucks saying that's where this thread is coming from...

Regardless. Even attempting to do that is absurd. Go sell your tC and buy an Impala or something if you want E85 that badly.