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Old Nov 28, 2017 | 12:28 AM
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I'm somewhat new to the Toyota scene. I have an 06 Camry base auto and I'm going to be doing a manual swap and also plan on doing a turbo or 2gr swap. I've been doing some lurking on carpart.com looking a trans.

In my area e350 transmissions are quite a bit lower cost than the Camry e351. I know it's a common swap to put a e351 in a tC. My question is would that same rational hold true to a e350 in a Camry?

Any info someone may have would be greatly appreciated.

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Old Nov 28, 2017 | 11:04 AM
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It should work, but there is once important difference. The Camry uses a speedometer sensor that is driven off a plastic gear that's mounted to the differential. The tC (e350) does not have this sensor since it gets vehicle speed from the abs sensors. Now you could swap the sensor into a tC transmission since it does have the plastic gear on the differential as well, but since the gear ratios are so different between the tC and Camry, you will likely have a big discrepancy between the vehicle speed on your dash vs actual speed. It will read too high.
Old Nov 28, 2017 | 01:15 PM
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Thank you for the input. I'm more familiar with Honda's than Toyota's. Each Honda transmission has it's own speedometer gear to match the final drive ratio. In essence any Honda swap will work with any cluster from most model years and be reasonably accurate. Is it possible that the e350 trans
would use a different speedometer gear than the e351 trans? I may be grasping at straws or being too cheap to spend the extra cash. I know Dakota digital sells a lot of recalibrated boxes to adjust those parameters too but that would most likely negate most of the savings. I appreciate the advice.

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Old Dec 6, 2017 | 04:33 PM
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It is possible that the speedo gear is different, but it's difficult to say for sure since there is no speedo pickup on the e350 to actually mesh with the gear. It would therefore be a waste for Toyota to put a different speedo gear on the tC trans, but I suppose it's still possible.
Old Jan 23, 2020 | 07:29 PM
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I'm actually putting a 5 Spd trans from a 2006 Scion tC into a 2004 Toyota Camry Solara, I'm running into the speedo problem myself, the Scion tC transmission does have a plate that covered where the speedo would go.

I removed the plate and the speedo fits, however I'm also switching from the U241e automatic so that's what came in my car and that's where I got my speedo from, I'll keep everyone posted how it works.

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Old Oct 12, 2020 | 11:47 PM
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Hey Y'all,

Old thread, I know, my transmission just went out on me and I was wondering what the final determination was for options on our xB's.

Am I just locked into finding an xB or xA trans? Is there another option that some one has actually done?

Thanks!

p.s. My first post here! Whoo hoo!

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