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Old May 12, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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Whats the reasoning to go for the ultimate? guessing due to being able to cut speed limiter?

Also, im thinking of going nitrous in the future. Can camcon not control it at all?
so the ultimate is able to cut the speed limiter?
I had no ideal the tc had a speed limiter, what is it by chance if anyone knows?

E-manage Ultimate = F T W
Old May 12, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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Yah the ultimate can take off the limiter.
Old May 12, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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But.... if you cut the limiter.... you're still hitting some insane RPMs. and tada.... kaboom!
Old May 12, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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yah really in the tC there is no point cutting the limiter as you cant go that much over it due to the way the gearing is setup. Unless of course you upgrade internals. Still it just seems kinda pointless.
Old May 12, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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In a all motor setup I think you would be able to gain a little more from cam con if you know how to tune it. You will only see big diffrences if you are boosting and have the Emanage. The ecu will still learn the Emanage.
Old May 12, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Yah im not really planning on getting too much extra hp. Id say 5-10 or so would be fine. so you say the car will still learn the emanage. does that mean it will overwrite the emanage map and you'd have to retune? Or can you just reset the car's ecu and run the emanage again with the same map ?
Old May 12, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by toyota_scion_tc
In a all motor setup I think you would be able to gain a little more from cam con if you know how to tune it. You will only see big diffrences if you are boosting and have the Emanage. The ecu will still learn the Emanage.
If it learns the E-manage, the settings stay the same in the E-manage right? So all you have to do is routinely disconnect the battery once a month right?
Old May 12, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by toyota_scion_tc
In a all motor setup I think you would be able to gain a little more from cam con if you know how to tune it. You will only see big diffrences if you are boosting and have the Emanage. The ecu will still learn the Emanage.
How does the ecu learn the emanage too? Does it learn every add on like this?
Old May 13, 2006 | 02:34 AM
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The emanage is a piggyback system just like the camcon so the ecu still gets the signals and will change over time for it. The ecu will learn all mods but it can only adjust so much within specifications of the ecu tuning. So some mods can actually cause a cel in certain circumstances.
Old May 15, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by toyota_scion_tc
The emanage is a piggyback system just like the camcon so the ecu still gets the signals and will change over time for it. The ecu will learn all mods but it can only adjust so much within specifications of the ecu tuning. So some mods can actually cause a cel in certain circumstances.
Now that really sucks
Old Sep 26, 2006 | 04:45 AM
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But wait, if the ECU re-learns around the e-manage, how is it that the guys in F/I haven't had a problem?
Old Sep 27, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by soros151
But wait, if the ECU re-learns around the e-manage, how is it that the guys in F/I haven't had a problem?
So, the OEM ECU will relearn and reset all settings to factory? Also, how are settings done on the emanage? Thru Laptop?
Old Sep 27, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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Yep, setting may be done thru a laptop, and some people claim that supposedly the ECU re-learns around the e-manage. Don't know if that is true.
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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I have e manage ult on my n/a tc I got huge gains out of it with out the zex 75 shot . I got 224 lbft at 53 mph rpm 3096 and 194.1 whp at 89 mph rpm 5199 my dyno is in my profile. the only thing i dont like is going through a tank of gas every day.
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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What are ur mods? with out nitrous oxide?
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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full internals,cams, weapon r intake with ram air,255lphwalbro,3in full exst,dcsport header, nology wires,ngk step cooler plugs, sunauto grounding sysytem,
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Okay, ... u have cams? ...Regrinds? 3inch full exhaust?... So much for air velocity... grounding kits don't do much and the OEM coils are better than using long cables in the middle. In what kind of dyno did u got the numbers? There's too much weird things here. ... I'm just a little doubtfull.
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interested in the cams as well??
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 01:07 AM
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okay it was a dyno pack witch is much better then the dyno jet it hooks up th the wheel if you dont trust me call the peaple who dyno it. not cam gears cams if you can read the dyno it says e manage tune the car is set up for racing but i do more shows then racing. there nummber is on the sheet.also try spending 15000 $ on the inside this is not zpi ____

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