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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Lets say stock engine with turbo added, what should the first couple upgrades be after the turbo?
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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Tires, clutch, suspension
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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so maybe some coilovers, will exhaust give me a decent hp gain? also, do they make aftermarket camshafts for this car?
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what's your current setup?
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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no setup, stock engine, i've got the money for the turbo kit, just wondering what would be a good order in which to start adding the parts
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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If you don't mind me asking, how much have you set aside for your build?
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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build up the car first. you don't need coilovers, tc's already have coilovers. unless you want adjustible coilovers which are different.

the must haves are boost, a/f, and egt gauges, stage 3 clutch. and a piggyback ecu.

i also reccomend upgraded suspension, tires and brakes because power without control is chaos. also, lsd is good for getting that power to the pavement.

few words to live by, you gotta pay to play, don't boost on a budget, there are not jdm parts for the tc, and buy from ebay at your own risk.

stock tc engine can tolerate a well tuned stage 1 kit no problem, but a stage one kit can blow an engine.

as for exhaust, a good s-pipe back exhaust of about 2.5 inches is fine enough. unless your going for 350 whp, which is rough on a stock engine.
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what all internals do i need to swap to keep the engine from blowing out the bottom of the car while going down the road? (so i don't blow the engine)
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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what all internals do i need to swap to keep the engine from blowing out the bottom of the car while going down the road? (so i don't blow the engine)
you missed my point. you don't need to upgrade your internals on a stage 1 kit. alot of turbo tc's that are daily drivers run up to 10 psi problem free. it just depends on the kit, the installation, and the tuning. get them all done well and you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

building the engine costs alot money you want to upgrade pistons, connecting rods, head studs valves springs. etc. a built engine costs about 8 grand.
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You don't need upgrade for your internals if you're under 300hp (you could probably go even higher). With tq over 250lbft, you'll regularly slip your clutch until it's death.

Budget?
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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I'm still gonna need the car to be reliable. It's gonna have to make 800 mile round trips about once or twice a month. So your opinion, what would be the most horsepower to have while still being able to make those trips. Gas mileage isn't going to be big deal, but having a car that doesn't run is.
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boosting your car isn't going to be 100% reliable. stuff goes wrong, and there can be a few kinks to work out in the begining.

now the car will be reliable so long as the kit you choose is good, the installation shop takes their time, and the dynotuner knows what they're doing. but nothing, and i mean nothing is gaurenteed. i had a really good reputible shop install the lsd on my tc. something they have done before many times on other people's tc's and i assumed nothing could go wrong. but something did, and i spend 2 grand and was without my tc for two weeks because they mis-aligned my synchronizer for 5th gear, and it broke apart.

so if reliability is job one and you don't have a second car, don't gamble on something like a turbo kit. you can ruin the engine if something happens like an accidental severe overboost.

buildling your engine doesn't guarentee longevity and reliablity either, if the work isn't done right in the first place.

as for mpg, it really depends on how often you go into boost. if you stay outta boost, your mpg will stay the same, but if your smoking tires at every stoplight, yeah, your mpg will drop. and once on the highway cruising, your not in boost, your in vacuum, which means your getting normal highway mpg.

oh, and you'll have to use 91 octane.

so there are lots of boosted daily driven reliable tc's, just like there are lots of people who had an lsd installed without having a single issue, but i wasn't one of those people, and notbody can gaurentee that you won't have a bad seal, or an exhaust leak or a vacuum leak.
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yeah, what draxcaliber said. adding turbo doesn't make your car 100% reliable, no matter who installs it, who tunes it, etc. a small little issue that may seem like nothing can cause lots of problems for FI. just be sure to use synthetic oil, use 91 octane, dont push your car to the limit every time you drive because that will wear your car down a lot.

as for parts to get after turbo: clutch, flywheel, guages, wideband, some type of management system, upgraded brakes, etc.
Old Oct 25, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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^^^^^^^^^^

I have to go with Drax on all this.. if ou want it to be reliable then go all motor.. you can make up to 200plus whp with the right build and its no where near as problematic as going boost. However if you just have to go boost.. go TRD if you have to keep it reliable. Cause after all... the s/c comes with warranty at ANY toyota shop, no matter where you are...

post up a budget cause... evena basic turbo setup and the mods to support it will run you between 3-5 grand...
Old Oct 25, 2007 | 12:58 AM
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alright, thanks guys, you all answered my questions! more than i can get out of the honda boards, thanks again!
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What turbo kits are you looking at?
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