ok, so if Sheep is right about everything concerning the S/C, then my question is for those of us that have the fog lights, what happens to them? If the intercooler/aftercooler is placed where the fog lights are then does that mean that they will either include a smaller inter/aftercooler or will they redesign the placement for the fogs? Personally I'm leaning towards what Engifineer is saying because it sounds as if he has a degree in this kind of thing but I really really really hope that Sheeps source is 100% legit and not just blowing smoke up our tailpipes.

 

I'll answer part of the question and one earlier that I didn't quote. Since I can't realyl tell you who it is because he hasn't given permission, I will just let you know that he is a very credible source that is highly involved with Scion though he is not an exec. He is getting info from Scion execs from what I can determine. He won't tell me where he gets it for sure though.

Now the other question: Boost I am told, is being guessed at about 8-12psi......he doesn't know for sure but that is some numbers he heard but has not been able to confirm. Also he doesn't know if that is with or without intercooler.

And Scion_tc: I am not denying criticism, I am simply trying to tell people that were flat out calling me a liar should not bother to answer. Especially when I am not trying to say this is 100% accurate, just that it comes from a credible source.

 

If toyota Executives arn't even able to access this information, then how did you manage to gain the top secret information.

 

if you boost the car, do you have to use 91 octane?

 

Yes project, you ahve to use 91 octane unless you want really bad results.

Jrv: I am gettign only a little bit of info that had made it out. Most is not even being hinted at

 

I know that this may be a dumb question and i am gonna get laughed at: Are the SC only available for manul trans?

 

When i was at the dealer my sales dude (probably has no idea what he's talking about)
told me that the SC was going to run about 2600 bucks.

 

TRD measures and publishes flywheel or wheel horsepower data, depending on the application. For example, for their 1FZFE supercharger, they post the gains at the wheels. While for their 1ZZFE super, they published gains at the crank.

They typically release separate kits for auto and manual transmissions applications, so, I'm pretty sure they'll do the same for the tC. I think manuals are the minority of tC's out their (I could be wrong about that, though) so, it's definitely in their best interest to release a kit for the autos as well.

Even if the SC is only running 5-6 psi, by not using 91+ you run the risk of detonation. Not worth the 50c per gallon saved.

 

Sparco makes seats, wheels, shifters, etc. Spearco makes intercoolers.


I'm pretty sure more automatic tCs have been sold than manuals. I would think the supercharger kit would either work with both models, or have a slightly different ECU or something. In either case, when the supercharger comes out, you'll be able to get it for a manual or an auto.

 

wow... if this is true I am definetly getting it.

 

definately.

 

Seriously if this thing kills the cobalt and keeps up with the SRT-4 Ill buy another tC in a couple years. 235 at the wheels is amazing and definitly worth the money. Thank god for financing!!!

 

I can beleive things about the S/C but not the, intercooler. I dont know how many of you looked into your engine compartment but to get that tubing from the S/C all the way to the front and back is going to need a lot of piping. Almost everything is in the way, alt, axle, engine. Just take a look and measure from where the S/C sits. I just dont think its possible.

 

I'm not sure how accurate this is but...
My source of info is from TRD.
There's been a big shake up within the company and that has set
things back a while.
Lookin' like sept. for a release date.
The ecu stuff is probably going to be a reflash of your current ecu.
Power wise it looks to be about 200 - 205 w/o intercooler
215 - 220 w/intercooler. I think TRD will not be producing an intercooler.
The kit should consist of :
supercharger, injectors, reflash, and hardware.
Please remain posative, it will come, and I'm sure it'll be awesome!

 

that is relatively the same information.

The damn ECU is the only inconsistent part in this whole mess.

 

It is a Vortech supercharger, and if the intercooler in question is one of Vortech's Air-Water-Air coolers, then 47 is definitely possible. According to Vortech, their charge cooler adds 45 hp and 30 lb/ft of torque for a Civic Si w/ their supercharger, and adds 35hp and 25 lb/ft of torque to a Vortech supercharged Teg GSR.

 

The shake up is actually the fact that Toyota bought TRD out and will now be making parts alot more available. The reason TRD parts are nearly impossible to get now is because ofthe inventory it is doing at the moment.

Don't remember who posted it butthanks on the name correction. Couldn't remember Spearco for some reason and Sparco jumped in my head. Was really tired at that point.........

 

235whp?
stock srt4 whp?
stock srt4 runs 15lbs of boost stock intercooled, and the tC is running between 8-12? i thought turbos were more efficient that superchargers? if that is true, how are they running nearly the same wheel horsepower?

 

The comparative efficiency of turbos and superchargers is highly debatably especially since the type and design of super and turbo charger makes a huge difference. Along with the other various components of the system such as piping and/or emissions related equipment which can add substantial restrictions to the airflow, necessitating a higher PSI to maintain target performance. Besides that, we're talking about 2 different engines with different compression ratios, different cam profiles, etc. How much HP does the SRT's engine put out w/o the turbo? If its already starting w/ a lower base number then there's part of your answer right there.

 

Please lets not turn this into a Turbocharger vs. Supercharger thread.