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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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ok so its been raining alot these past days in south florida and i was leaving work on friday and i started to drive and my tires skid cuz of the water on the ground and then 2 seconds after my engine turned off. I tried turning it back on and it made a wierd noise like it wanted to start but then shook and turned off, i got it towed to my house and left it there until i got back from orlando hoping it would dry or something but no it still wont start, i have a CAI and the fender wall covering it is missing so could it be that the water went in there somehow even if i didnt go in a big puddle, and i also have the seibon Vs2 hood with the vent so could it be that the water got something wet?, what shouldd i do i really need my car =(


i also took a little video of the noise it makes when i try to start it but i have no idea how to upload it so if someone knows please help me
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REMOVE ALL SPARK PLUGS ASAP
Check oil for water on dipstick.
Crank engine over with spark plugs connected to coils but not in the spark plug holes - just resting on the metal part of the engine head so you ground the plugs outer electrode.
See if you get water out of the cylinders when it cranks with the plugs removed and if any of the plugs are wet with water. CAI bad idea in deep water! If you are lucky you only have wet plugs and not some engine damage from hydralic lock.
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how do i remove the spark plugs
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Remove engine cover - 10mm nuts I think if it is like my xB engine. Then remove coils over each plug - then way down deep in the cylinder head are the spark plugs. You will need a long extension and maybe a magnet on a wand to remove the plugs once you loosen them if you don't have a splark plug socket that has the rubber insert to hold onto the plug.
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so i dont need a special tool or anything right
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It is the small size spark plug so you need the small plug socket 5/8" deep or 16mm and about a 1 foot extension or you could mash your knuckles.
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damn ill see if i have that
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I very highly doubt any water got in - unless the filter was submerged. Air will pull into the filter before any water will - so as long as part of the filter is not submerged in water - it will still pull air.

Of course having said that... you should get those fender linings in ASAP.
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but then what would it be , how do i upload a video so u can hear it
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http://www.facebook.com/home.php?fil...4014769&ref=nf

thats the only video i have so far
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OMG is that where your intake is !!!! EEEYOOOOWWW yeah you got water in at least two cylinders and probably really wet plugs. The intake is like a shopvac when it comes to sucking in stuff - water will go right through it into the cylinders. By now you have flooded the wet plugs with gasoline and water - take them out dry them off or put fresh ones in but if your cylinders are wet the next plug will do the same thing - get wet and foul out pretty quick. Great video use . . . could tell right away from how it sounds what was going on.
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really u think so, but there wasnt alot of puddles or water and so what does that mean? is my engine ____ed up or do i just have to dry off the spark plugs? where would i buy them anyways
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thanks and so its not hydrolocked then rite? and somebody said it might be the battery but from the video u dont think so rite
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Well Hydrolock is when the piston come up and tries to compress the air and fuel only this time you have water and water doesn't compress so suddenly the piston just stops and usually something breaks . . . like a piston or rod or you blow the head gasket big time. If it is a manual transmission you could try rolling it down a hill in gear with the ignition turned off and and by turning the engine over without any fuel being injected it could clear out the water but you can't really open the throttle up since it is drive by wire so . . . take out the plugs and dry them off if they are wet. Do one cylinder at a time but do them all.
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If there was overlap on the intake and exhaust valve I would try connecting a vacuum cleaner to the tail pipe and slowly turn the engine over by hand and let the vacuum cleaner suck air though each cylinder to dry them out but that may only work with the plugs removed.
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You really want to get that intake out of the wheel well area - that is going to suck all sorts of dirt and road dust into the filter and right into the engine. Water splashed up from the tire can enter that intake and if only a 1/4 of a cup gets into one cylinder it could hydrolock. You may have also gotten your MAF wet and that will screw up the A/F ratio. It should dry off quickly but is probably dirty and needs cleaning now.
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damn i wish i knew a little more about this lol i barely understand what ur saying :/ so what should i do, my car is an 07 automatic
Old Jul 20, 2009 | 02:49 AM
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Pull out the plugs - if they are wet then you found the problem. It almost sounds like it will start. You should also put a battery charger on your battery since you probably have been cranking it a lot. That way you start with a full charge and it will help it start easier when you put the plugs back in. If you search this forum you should be able to find photos of the engine and how to remove the plugs. I did mine earlier this year for the first time never having seen the actual engine for more than 3 years that I have been under the hood. The plastic engine cover comes off with 4 nuts on the xB. Take your time and don't drop any nuts - especially into the spark plug holes after you take them out. Also don't tighten them too much when you put them back in - just a good torque I think about 20lbsFt You can tell by how they loosen up if they come out too easy then tighten them a little more. You can fell when the plug washer crushes a little then the wrench stops turning that you have it socked down pretty good. Biggest mistake is too tight and you strip the heads.



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