It's red in your profile but really does look orange in the avatar, people may be too lazy to read the profile as well. As for AutoX, have fun with it but I'm not sure you'll be competitive with your configuration. Every AutoX tC or xA I've seen is pretty much stripped down inside, and the Turbo bumps you to the unlimited class where there's serious competition. If you're not looking to compete at a serious level, AutoX or time attack could be very fun in a turbo'd tC, just make sure the suspension is set up for it and invest in a second set of rims and tires for only AutoX use. The PTuning tC does dual duty show / time attack, but I believe their subs etc. are removeable for racing.

 

First Off, as far as Complication goes, dude your calling the wrong person in this thread useless. Complication knows more about the tC and turbo's on the tC than you do. If you don't want your A/C, then press the button that turns it off and that will relieve a lot of tension. I think you are in the wrong for calling complications responses useless.

And why hell ask a question like this in an OPEN FORUM where EVERYONE will put in their opinion, either way? I mean, from what I read here, your way or the highway... Take that to some other Forum man. Your asking people what they think then call them a newb.

 

He has an rs1.. its red.

Don't fall to his level by dissing his sweet, non a/c'ed ride.

 

 

There is no gain in taking the a/c compressor off. All you're doing it "freeing up". Beside, there is no loss in hp, because it just a free pulley without the a/c clutch engage.

 

The crankshaft pulley actually has been proven to yeild power, it has the same effects as the flywheel. It's lighter, therefore it will have less rotational mass, which means it directly allows the crankshaft to spin easier. The A/C pulley is an in-direct pulley, which causes a very minimal amount of drag while the A/C compressor is off, it pretty much acts as a belt tensioner. Also, having a turbo has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of power yielded from removing the A/C compressor.

Also, if you look at the typical power gains from doing pulleys (not including crankshaft pulley), it's around 3-5 for A/C, water pump, and alt pulley. It's still not as effective as completely removing the entire compressor, but it's still damn near the same effect. Which means if you get 1-2 HP per pulley swapped, you're going to get about 2-3 for removing the entire compressor.

Cars today aren't made like they were back in the 70's, things like the fans, alternator, a/c compressor...don't put very much of a drag on the motor. It's just like having the A/C on, anyone who says they can 'feel' a difference in power, when it's on and off, has one hell of a sensitive 'butt dyno'. Run a dyno with the A/C on and then with it turned off, I will put money down the results are within 1 HP. And if anyone argues with me, they don't know that vehicles have a cutoff for the A/C when at full throttle.

The only benefit to removing the compress and ALL a/c components, would be weight, and you could gain the exact same amount of weight loss taking out the rear seats, spare tire and tools. And that takes 1/25th the time.

Oh yeah, and never tell someone they can't express his/her own opinions, especially on a public forum, unless of course you just want to get flamed. Denying someone of his/her first amendment... .

 

Im sure you can find the belt length that would be needed if the AC were to be removed, and instead of removing it completely, just take it out of the loop... This way when summer comes around and you start missing the nice, cool, refreshing feel of the AC, you can just pop in the right belt, w/o having to hunt down pieces you pulled...

But then again, you're not gonna get huge gains, a few whp... But for $20-30, what do you expect?

 

crankshaft pulleys, flywheels, etc DO NOT ADD OR FREE UP POWER. This is 100% against all laws of physics. Most dynos inherently read power in an incorrect manner (under changing engine speeds. True, accurate power measures are static and ignore accelaration) which is why they can read power gains for these types of mods. A lot of dynos will tell you you freed up power with lighter wheels as well... which is bs. Under static rpm (not accelrating) the car can apply the same amount of pulling force regardless of your pulley weight. This completely rules out any real power gain by one. If it frees up power, it will do so under static rpm. This is has been discussed and discussed. Just because something yields better acceleration (which a pulley does a crap job of anyway.. no track proof to back up any claims so far) does not mean it frees up power in any way. I know that itis strange to think about, but if you learn enough about motion, flywheels and inertia it makes sense.. trust me An underdrive system, on the other hand, DOES affect power, although not by much. It has an effect because you are removing constant load via gear reduction (different sized pullies).


But besides all that, and all the bickering..... yes, you could remove the AC compressor if you wanted, and should just need to find the right belt to do so (I dont recall, since I have never taken it off, but the AC has no tension adjustment on its bracket in my recollection). You will need to make sure that the compressor does not keep the belt out away from something else that it may hit otherwise as well, or you would need an idler of some sort made for it.

As mentioned, with the AC off, you will see no advantage power wise to this, since the ac is not placing a load on the engine. The main benefit I would see would be weight savings. However, if you have a lot of other add ons, like a sound system, I would think that weight savings would not be of concern to you. If it is though, you can dump the condensor, accumulator, hoses, piping, compressor, etc by doing this.

 

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I'd do the rest of your posts, but I don't have all day.

God bless our public schools. And some people actually wonder why the rest of the world laughs at us.

Oh, and btw, it's OUR scions not ARE scions.

 

Sorry, I couldn't resist .

 

couldn't resist what, I'd = I would

 

u have a turbo kit and your complaining about adding 2whp by removing the a/c ?? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAH

 

How do you guys feel about turboing RTD busses?




/threadjack

 

Haha sorry, I was reading it as "I'd would do" .

 

TCpete, GOOD CATCH, I can't believe nobody caught that yet!

 

No prob, I don't even care if someone did correct me. It'd would give me a chance to better myself.

 

LAWL



just kidding.

 

couldn't resist what? I'd = I would. improper use of a comma! lol

 

yeah, that was on purpose

 

yup, you got me.