TCPete at least enlighten everyone with your knowledge instead of posting an LOL.

 

i would not wanna go n/a even if i had the money for it,theres nothing like a boosted car,pulling u back in your seat,the tc have the big 2.4 liter motor that are boost happy and easily 300 whp might not seem alot but beleive,it makes the car a beast,i just dont see any reason to spend all that money on doing a N/A build,i dont care if you get 250-280 hp all motor,im addicted to boost nothing like that feeling,i myself in the process on going boost,i have had all the bolt ons you can have,minus the internals,which i didnt wanna touch as i knew some day ill go boost and knew the motor can handle what i wanted...

so if you want power,boost,all thats is,the money ive spent,my car could of been boosted already,but hey ,you live and learn,your money,do what you want,

 

I used the $$'s I was given by local shops :shrug:

 

Drag racing is for fast cars
Autocross and road are for fast drivers.

Going straight is easy.

Make your car pull a g.
Then we talk!

 

I have 500+hp and stock brakes And yes Im serious lol

 

Okay.

So lets say i go turbo.

Whats the NEGATIVES... Correct me if I'm wrong...But I have read that the tc engine life will decrease MAJORLY if you turbo it. Yes, of course the engine will die sooner, its a turbo....But is it as bad as people claim? IF I would turbo it, how much PSI would be good to sustain the life of the engine?

And whats up with people hating? TC car meant for this. And this. Does it matter? I post to much...Sorry for the questions? I mean, thats why this forum is here. TO get help and GIVE help and show off. I mean...if its just to showoff ill jump forums...Nevertheless, hating is unnecessary. You and this damn research bro. Give me some links, I've done enough reading. I read into what my next mod will be. Fuel injectors, yes I've been told to upgrade them as people claim they will ++++ some hp. Which is why I asked as well if its worth it. Dude, I get where you're coming from, but instead of going around these forums acting like you were an expert from birth is sad. I'm new to the mod world, so don't act like I'm going around saying I'm right. I started this to clear some confusion up. BUT, nevertheless you're gonna get "irritated". Here, pm or post some links then. All I find when searching is people bragging. I don't (never) find someone or ANYTHING listing the positives/negatives to things.

 

A f/I tc is as reliable as you make it. Parts, tune and driving style will all factor in so no one can really say that "a turbo tc won't last" without looking like an uneducated moron.


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Keeame,

You have to have a thick skin when you post on here. There are a lot of haters and know-it-alls.. but ALSO, there are some smart, and helpful people. The reason your catching a lot of flack is most likely because we see people come in and post the same stuff all the time. More importantly, you need to focus on what your goal is. I will tell you this, going out and buying random parts (ie: fuel injectors, ect) just because you "think" it will help make HP - is a bad plan. What you need to do (and I said this to you already) is have an END goal in mind. (IE: Turbo car, and make 250hp reliably) and work with that as your goal. Your best bet - ESPECIALLY if your new to this, which you admit you are - is to buy a kit from Ptuning, Dezod, or World Racing that all the "homework" has been done for you. It does not get any easier than that.

But will usually not work, and might end up making your car a turd is if you just buy random parts that are not needed. (for example, why would you buy injectors now?) you dont have enough fuel flowing through your car as it stands that you would need upgraded injectors.

Seriously, your best bet - hands down is to go buy a COMPLETE kit, which includes everything you need. You will get all parts needed to make your car run like a beast. THEN all you have to do is a) get the kit installed, and b) have the car tuned.

I dont know how to spell this out better for you than that.

You ask for the positives and negatives, well here they are :
positive: make more power, car is more fun to drive, crushing on other cars is fun. If installed properly the car will last just as long as a non-turbo car.

negative: car is modified, wont get your money back as an "investment". Dealers are usually scared to buy modified cars from people, so your really left with selling the car to an individual. also, your adding MORE parts into the car, so things can break, you now have more parts you would have to replace *if* something went wrong. Also, any time you put a lot more power in something that did not have it to start with, some parts are likely to break easier due to the amount of stress put on them. That doesnt mean things will just break, but its common sense.

 

a turbo wont shorten the life of ur engine if u have a good tune and keep up with the lil bit of extra tlc that it may need. my car has almost 130k on the clock and i made 300whp and 270tq. the main things to do is 1) dont cheap out on parts. get quality and do it right the 1st time, 2) make sure u get a good tune, not a map from someone bc every car is diff. ur gonan waste ur $ on an n/a build.

it will shorten ur engine life if u 1) run excessive amounts of boost without any fuel mods and engine management, 2) have a poopie tune

as for any questions you may have you can always consult the professionals such as dezod, ptuning and world-motorsports. they will be glad to answer any concerns u may have as far as which direction to go without any criticism. yes i agree that knowledge is key, but also for ppl starting out, like urself, u have to start somewhere. learning is the hardest part, especially with forums due to the fact that u get mixed responses to any questions u may have. i think ur best option for now, is consult with the guys i listed above, for they have been doing this for years.

no matter what direction u decide to go, u can have alot of enjoyment out of a boosted tc, and reliably as long as its DONE RIGHT.

 

im having way to much fun reading to correct anyone at the moment.

 

N/a is for girls. Lol

 

Friend had his install and tune done by p-tuning, his motor blew last year. Not saying p-tuning is bad, just saying it will happen.

OP, Fuel Injectors won't give you ANY HP. But if you chose to upgrade them, so be it. Just don't be mad when people told you so. (And if you honestly think they will, READ info on the internet!)

 

swap in an LS1

 

nitrous. Nitrous. NITROUS

 

Sorry, some funnies to lighten the mood:

 

i second the ls1 swap

 

skills and knowledge? if op is convinced an injector upgrade will net him power then i've got an ebay chip and an electric hello kitty leaf blower to sell him that will be just as much of a performance upgrade as the injectors.

really a build cost would only be equal to how much the op is willing to spend on the quality parts and dedication to the project. chances are for an na build he will most likely not have the knowledge base to DIY there for forcing him to require a "good shop" for assistance with any sophisticated and technical building/tuning needs. so granted probably a used turbo kit would be the easier, cheaper, option for the moment. but chances are if the op is asking questions about motor longevity with the use a FI applied, he aint ready for what fi will bring him in the future as far as prolonged used on an engine that was not built based on FI use.

i have plenty tq... the 2az is not a short stroke high revving honda. its a long stroke low rev tq motor.

 

I was afraid you might take offense to my post so I just deleted it but you must have been replying at the time. Oh well, just needed to explain the missing post.

Anyway, my point was simply that what you did for under $3000 would cost the OP a lot more since he'd require a shop to do all of the design and most of the work. You should take that as a compliment to your skills and knowledge. As for engine longevity, opinions and experience vary a lot but it seems that like the 2AZ-FE holds up pretty well with 300hp or less if tuned correctly. Obviously the OP would need a pro tune.

As for tq, would you mind defining "plenty"? I've seen your dyno results but never any tq figures. I know the 2AZ is torquey long stroke engine but surely you can concede that a boosted 2AZ will have more tq than a N/A 2AZ.

 

Idk what "TC car meant for this. And this." means, but if your referring to built motors and/or forced induction...no, that is not what the 2AZ-FE was meant for. As stated, the tC is an ECONOMY car. The 2AZ-FE that is found in your tC is also found in Toyota Camrys. They are both meant to be practical, reliable, fuel efficient vehicles as stated earlier in the thread. The tC looks "sporty" because it was supopsed to attract younger people and build their loyalty to the Scion/Toyota/Lexus brand.

And the forum is not here to spoon feed you. Yes, we are all here to help each other and learn from each other, but most of the stuff in this thread has been covered hundreds of times, you could search and have reading material for the next week.

And judging by some of the questions youve asked so far and the "information" you think you have, you are neither ready for a NA build or FI. It takes alot of time, money, and knowledge. If you lack even one of those you will not like the outcome. Nothing personal, i just saying you should do alot more research before you dive into something you know nothing about.

Finally, I think were done here, this doesnt look like its going anywhere positive.