im hearing alot of people saying when they have the cai..they loose some low end torque but i think thats cause they have the SHort version..im sure the Full instake will benfit you more cause its not drwaing the engine heat what do you gies think

 

The differences in performance are very minor, but the CAI will be better than the short ram overall - just not a LOT better. If you want a better look in the engine bay, go for a short ram. If you want to have the most performance possible, go with the CAI.

But again, the difference is minor, so it's up to what you want.

 

it also kinda helps where u live. since im in michigan i dont technically NEED a CAI. short rams work just as well. colder weather climates dont necessarly need CAI

 

i mean if im spending just over $200 for the injen cai might as well...you wouldnt spend that kind of money on a short ram would you...thats just my thought..

 

going over 20 mph most of the heat is sucked away from the engine bay anyways... i say get the short ram because the filter is easier to get to and it sounds great! also buy the injen CAI/SRI combo soo you can try both for yourself and see which one you like.

 

Not all CAI are the same. The Injen seems to proved the tC better over all performance than other brands. K&N was the best for peak HP but it didn't have the torque the Injen has.
But either way you won't see/feel a difference.

 

you should just save your money and go for something else. the fact of it is that CAI and ShortRam doesn't do much difference either way. The only difference is Combustion wise CAI is better but improvement in HP is not noticeable. even if it says HP gain is 10 or whatever the WHP gain is only maybe at most 1 or not even. Just go with a trd filter or any filter b/c stock intakes are made to lower the temp at maximum efficiency and each decrease in degree or gain in degree you either lose or gain hp. hope this helps

 

actually i spoke to others tc's owners with the injen cai....and they said they saw and improvemnt is the gas mialage and about 7 hp gain and about 6 lb torqu they did a dyno which idont have proof of but ive seen it..where they do stock run then cai run....but SRI its like a 1 to 2 HP less then full intake as im been reasing today after i hoped this thread to get other people opions...people noticed the gain about 3500 to 4500 rpms

 

Here you go:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=92108

For more go here:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=89753

 

i think i made my choice and going with the full cai might as well it might be a !@#$%^ to install but heard that the SRI gave some problems as far as the Air mixture...

 

Well if I were you, save up and buy the by-pass valve to save on Hydro-Locking. Just read about one person having this happen to him. the $50 bucks is better than a few grand for an engine.

 

thats if your sumerged in water but then again as they say you never know..i hade that full cai on my old car for about a year drove through rain and snow havent had any problems but i guess it was my luck..different cars acr differently

 

I run the weapon-r secret weapon intake and i love it (its short ram) it looks good and sounds even better : )...esp because it comes with a hose that can make it cold air....so i would say short ram

 

yeah but it's really hard for it to happen.

 

the only reason i why i installed the Full CAI..cause injen as you know can do both..but if you spending that much money on and CAI..you might as well use it to the advantage even though there might be a small gain compared to the SRI..



people do testing with the hydro-locking..and is very hard to happen you have to really have you engine going in order to have it happen...

 

i got a injen cAI and i love it... never tried the short ram however,

 

Okay here's the facts on this case.... if you go Short Ram setup over full CAI into the fender...it is a fact.... you are going to lose a whopping 1 single hp. and that is no BS. I run the Injen CAI as a short ram setup in both of my tCs and you really cant tell the difference.... best part about the short ram is you're only giving up 1 single hp and the ease of maintenence is great... you're still sucking cold air from the fender opening. and you never have to worry about hydro-locking unless you launch your tC into a lake... and then you have bigger things to worry about :D

 

i understand what your saying...yea there maybe 1 or 2 hp difference...but if injen made a SRI only for like $150 or so i can undertstand.... being the fact were paying between $250 to $270 on a intake and your getting both versions you might as well use the full CAI maybe 1 hp difference but you will get you money well spent unless you think $270 for a SRI is a good deal be sucking all that hot air in...the air mixture mixes better with the Ful CAI and wont have a smany problems besides hydro-locking but thats hard for it to happen unless you driving in a lake

 

im sure under street conditions the SRI would be lower do to heat soak. and the Air fuel went nuts around 5300. sense you can't buy just the Short Ram it is totally pointless to not install the Cold Air Section unless you cant put in the whole thing