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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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I think there are more than 1 SR20DET 350z's
here's the Signal 350


and here's one of the first with the sr20det
The Drift Alliance Forsberg 350z







I think the primary reason for the swap is they are easier to mickey mouse a fix on than the new 350z engine. They take a beating, you beat a new 350z it will not be happy and will kill your wallet.

The tc However... will not be taking a beating like the Drift cars do... So that is another reason not to swap.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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If you're serious about doing a motor swap, and want the car to be reliable and have more power, you have to be looking at either the 3.0L or 3.3L engines from the Camry and Solara. One of those should drop right in and bolt right up, and other than getting the computer to accept the whole thing, should be relatively easy. Sure, any motor could be made to work (and the car could be converted to RWD while you're at it) but most will be cost prohibitive. I think the V6 solution could be something that will give good perfomance for the cost.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamMightyMiniz
The tc However... will not be taking a beating like the Drift cars do... So that is another reason not to swap.
What the hell, do know how to read? The point behind the swap is not to be conservative, or be faster than any other tC on the road, or to beat on it. ITS TO BE DIFFERENT, or just to imagine the possiblity of the car itself, not the stock 2AZ camry engine. Everyday on this forum some dumbass post a topic called "which intake should I get" or something close to that. WOW, there are like 4 on the market currently. Who cares which intake you get! Everyone is living in the 90's on here. It reminds me of the day that Civic's became popular. Then next thing you know, you were a retard if you didnt swap your engine. Then came tons of other cars doing swaps. Why would the tC be an exception? Because it's a brand new car with a camry engine matched with a ____ty transmission? wow!

Sorry, the only one I have ever seen is the Signal Auto car, and when I met them at SEMA, he told me that it was the only one in existance. But whatever, it's still something that you dont see everyday, like a Civic hatch w/ a B16.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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Signal may have had the only one at SEMA

No need to jump around like a loon Kamakazi... but I guess that's fitting of your SL moniker

Dive in head first no matter the consequence... you are 100% correct from pivot to impact, then nothing else matters.

So all you're trying to say here is that you want to be differant.

Swapping a motor to be "differant" is differant and bravo. Why not chop the top and make it a vert? That would add function to the style and be completely differant than an imagined powerplant swap. And you could still drive it!

Then you could drop the top and yell "look at me!".
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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oh wow, your smart! hahaha

I started this as a possible idea, or possible thing that a shop may look into performing. I could care less about my tC, im not doing any performance mods, unless they are free, or I make them myself, like my intake, wow! whatever. I have other places to dump my cash to go fast. That's why one of the first things that I said was" this would be cool for someone or a shop that had tons of cash to build up a project that would be different from everyone else.

But that's cool man, I didnt mean to hurt your feelings! take it easy! I dont want my SL moiker to upset you.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jmiller20874
There's no doubt the 3S-GTE is a good engine but the fact remains we're talking about putting a nearly 10 year old used engine into a brand new car. There's nothing practical about that. Take the $10,000+ it would take to do said swap and invest it into the engine already there. Get the head ported, buy strengthened internals, resleeve the cylinders, different cams and reinforce the block. This engine can be made to perform. After all, wouldn't that be more fun?
3S-GTE's are still in production till this day. Not here of course, but in Japan. So it is possible to get an almost brand new 3S-GTE with low miles. Now investing $10,000 into the 2AZ can be a good idea as well. I guess it all comes down to budget, time, and preference.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonH
If you're serious about doing a motor swap, and want the car to be reliable and have more power, you have to be looking at either the 3.0L or 3.3L engines from the Camry and Solara. One of those should drop right in and bolt right up, and other than getting the computer to accept the whole thing, should be relatively easy. Sure, any motor could be made to work (and the car could be converted to RWD while you're at it) but most will be cost prohibitive. I think the V6 solution could be something that will give good perfomance for the cost.
This would be a good idea as well. If a 1MZ-FE can fit into a Celica and MR2, i'm sure it could fit into the tC as well.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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Wow Kamakazi, you take things pretty literally... might need to chill your soul a little.
Try a refreshing Iced Tea... Mesa can get a little hot. I should know.
Read about how you are looking to dump a few $ into your KAMAKAZI team car... when will we see that at PIR?
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamikazi
Have any of you seen the Signal Auto 350Z?
They threw out the VQ30DE 280hp V6 and installed a 1989 SR20DETT, They did it because it was unique. I got to see this car at the 04 SEMA show, and watching it drift is even more amazing. But this is an example of a not so common swap, its the only one of its kind. Kinda like the one I was talking about being a possibility when I started this topic.
I don't think they primarly did the swap to make it unique. For example, the JGTC Supra's back in the day swapped out the 2JZ-GTE for the 3S-GTE. Major reasons was because the 3S-GTE could be made to meet the 500HP requirement, was lighter than the 2JZ-GTE, and can be fitted behind the front axle for better weight distribution. So I would not be surprised if Signal Auto swapped in the SR20DET for the same reasons.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADDER_MASTER
I don't think they primarly did the swap to make it unique. For example, the JGTC Supra's back in the day swapped out the 2JZ-GTE for the 3S-GTE. Major reasons was because the 3S-GTE could be made to meet the 500HP requirement, was lighter than the 2JZ-GTE, and can be fitted behind the front axle for better weight distribution. So I would not be surprised if Signal Auto swapped in the SR20DET for the same reasons.
The guy I talked to about it mentioned weight, and basically the power to weight ratio would benefit them a lot more in a drift car than the VQ30DE V6 could. But then he went on to talk about how unique it was, and blaa, blaa, blaa, he was just there to sell Signal's parts, and services.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamMightyMiniz
Wow Kamakazi, you take things pretty literally... might need to chill your soul a little.
Try a refreshing Iced Tea... Mesa can get a little hot. I should know.
Read about how you are looking to dump a few $ into your KAMAKAZI team car... when will we see that at PIR?
Where did you read that? what team car? Kamikazi Motorsports is mine, yes, but the car idea was scraped for now because my best friend just sold the damn thing like a month ago. But I am still working on my 240. I was at FIR this past weekend with US Drift. Trust me, I will be at PIR, but when I am good and ready, actually, when my car is good and ready. I have a lot of body damage for one. What do you race at the track, I will be out there on May 7th and 8th for the Drift event, I will more than likely be corner working too.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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Where did I read it?
On your site. You remind me of someone I know. I'll keep that to myself tho
Now see there Kami, you get pretty worked up over nothing... you should go sit on the porch and sip on some Iced Tea.

where's the "chill" emote?

Me... I will be bust at Buttonwillow on the 8th more or less... Enjoying myself, watching all the MINI's racing at a little thing I promote... the MINI Challenge. this will be Series One - WEST COAST. If you need to know more... just PM me
Oh yes, if you have a Scion, you might want to prep for our Scion Challenge in August
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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im fine, I wasnt asking it as being offended or worked up over it. I kinda figured that you got it from our site, but I wasnt for sure, because I think that I may have posted something about it on here some time ago. Im suprised that you took the time to find it on my our site.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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It was not hard to find.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamikazi
That's not the point, there are always places that do insane crazy swaps on brand new cars, it's no different than Signal Auto Salon taking a Brand new 350z and slapping a old SR20DET out of a silvia, (went from a V6 to an in-line 4)???? why, because it's different, and no-one has done it. Why spend $5000 on Scionspeeds Turbo kits when you can spend that much on a completely different engine that was built Turboed from the factory that puts out the same HP and TQ as the turbo kits???? That engine is very reliable, although, so would the 2AZ that is in the tC, if you built it for a Turbo, but then you would end up spending twice as much in order to keep it reliable and dependable for daily use.
Scion speeds 5k turbo the stage 3 is pushing out over 400 hp this is pointless to go to a smaller engine if you want power people switch from a 6 cylinder to a 4 cylinder because it weighs less not because it performs better thats like saying I got a 3.0L I want to get a 2.5L for more power it just isnt plausible.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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you mean your a dumbass like the other guys? that fine with me!
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jmiller20874
I don't see the point of going to a smaller engine just because it can be done. With forged internals, the 2AZ would be a workhorse under moderate amounts of boost probably easily surpassing the power potential of the 3SGTE. A 5-speed <-> 6-speed swap (Celica GT-S) would be more interesting to me.
that's wat I'm talkin about
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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that's NOT what im talking about!
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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obviously

But you should do it!
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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would if I could!

But I have wanted a 89 Z w/ a RB26DETT, so if I did anything, that would come first. It has been done before, but I dont care.



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