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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ICrazyChrisI
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why not use the STOCK TC one and put an extra pipe on the other side so its lik a dual exhaust??
Uhm..have you seen the insides of an exhaust? You can't just make holes wherever you want.

did he say to drill it on, no he said to make it LOOK like you had dual tips...you can just weld the pipe on.
Old Feb 26, 2006 | 03:00 AM
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^ Then that just flat out sucks...
Old Feb 26, 2006 | 03:07 AM
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My opinion is that the mufler its not the only factor that makes that sweet noise from 350z and g36
its a combination of v6 engine catalic converters and mufler if you only put the muffler i am 99% sure it wont give u that sweet noise that you re looking for i already did with my old 300zx twin turbo that i had
i really dont know if the reason why i didint get that noise was because of the turbos or in fact was because i didint have catalic on my car
but like i said it won't work
Old Feb 26, 2006 | 04:37 AM
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^^ the turbine on a turbo does a pretty good job of muffling on its own.. that is why some sell "turbo" mufflers. A turbo, due to the way it works, doesnt require as much "muffling" action on the exhaust, so you can run a more open muffler with them. I think the reason you did not see the same sound is due to that very fact.
Old Feb 26, 2006 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ICrazyChrisI
Originally Posted by hahaitzskippy
why not use the STOCK TC one and put an extra pipe on the other side so its lik a dual exhaust??
Uhm..have you seen the insides of an exhaust? You can't just make holes wherever you want.
yes i have and it can work




besides, if you do this, i gurantee it can free up 3-5 hp... (5 hp is what the STOCK muffler holds back)
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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ok just so you all are clear with my expectations...

im not looking to sound like the z, thats absurd. there are so many thinks involved with why that car has the unuque sound it does. ( as some already stated).

im looking for more so it giving some of the characteristics, because like i said on another thread, i had the trd, and it was to lound for my tastes...

this is also why i havnt opted for stylis' magnaflow setup, because im afraid its still a little too loud, with those aftermarket mufflers.

therefor, im looking for a more efficiant oem muffler that has dual tips. THIS is why i have my sights ont the z muffler, because I think it best fits my criteria, wouldnt you all agree? im open to suggestions, i just know that muffler contributes to that sweet sound, and maybe it could carry over those qualities, like the slighty airy, hollow gurgle. my goals overall are
1. to have two functional tips from 1 muffler,
2. for it to be oem, so it looks stock, not flashy(and more expensive) stainless steel.
3. to be better flowing, and to modify the stock sound slighty, but not to add noise.

(doesnt have to be in that order), anyway , its time for bed. sleep tight yall
Old Feb 26, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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Oh, and does anyone know if theres an actual difference between the z muffler and g35? because the g35 muffler looks a little smaller and oval, im hoping im not seeing things, because i might go with g35 if the actual muffler is smaller... ???
Old Feb 26, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Nope its the same exact part number i used to work for nissan dealer as parts counter and once we share the same one with an infinity dealer
i will sugest to try the nismo mufler for a 350z that is nice and shiny one
go here and you can even listen to the sound of the mufller
http://www.350zmotoring.com/reviewpo...roduct=9&cat=7
Old Feb 26, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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You should get a hold of Rhianna. She has a custom made dual on her tC. Her user name is xJustaGirl21tx here on SL. She may be able to give you some tips.
Old Feb 26, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kcautotc
ok just so you all are clear with my expectations...

im not looking to sound like the z, thats absurd. there are so many thinks involved with why that car has the unuque sound it does. ( as some already stated).

im looking for more so it giving some of the characteristics, because like i said on another thread, i had the trd, and it was to lound for my tastes...

this is also why i havnt opted for stylis' magnaflow setup, because im afraid its still a little too loud, with those aftermarket mufflers.

therefor, im looking for a more efficiant oem muffler that has dual tips. THIS is why i have my sights ont the z muffler, because I think it best fits my criteria, wouldnt you all agree? im open to suggestions, i just know that muffler contributes to that sweet sound, and maybe it could carry over those qualities, like the slighty airy, hollow gurgle. my goals overall are
1. to have two functional tips from 1 muffler,
2. for it to be oem, so it looks stock, not flashy(and more expensive) stainless steel.
3. to be better flowing, and to modify the stock sound slighty, but not to add noise.

(doesnt have to be in that order), anyway , its time for bed. sleep tight yall
so no comment about using the stock TC muffler and making it a dual tip?

if you look at my previous post with the pictures. the exhaust gases has to enter the muffler, go through 3 chambers then through a pipe passing through those chambers and out the exhaust.
im sure if you tried my idea, it will be quieter than the TRD for sure but a little louder than stock.

im like you because i dont want a loud car PERIOD, thats why i only have AW header and s-pipe. midpipe... maybe with a hi-flow cat and resonator but dont count on it.

jus giving you a suggestion.
Old Feb 26, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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i actually mention that in one of the other posts. like is said on my list, i want to be a better flowing muffler, because i have no idea what they were thinking with the chambers, the flaps, the pipe going all to the through to other end, and the exhaust forcing itself. i just figure that the z muffler would be pretty efficiant since its a sports car, not a sporty car. and if any thing it will be a little overkill. because you cant get an aftermarket muffler that is as quiet as oem.

and also, on regards to the stock muffler, if you added a tip to the other side, the exhaust is going to take the path of least resistance, so the new tip will have double the flow and will look silly on a cold day. plus with adding a tip, your not going to find an identical tip, so youll have to replace both, which is more than the z muffler all together, ya know? does anyone know if adding another tip that is functional would give some relief to the mufflers restrictiveness?

also, thanks tcwillie for the info, the pics i looked at make the g35 muffler look a little smaller.

also, skippy, how does your exhaust sound after you added the header and s-pipe? any louder? prob a little bit of rasp?
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 04:03 AM
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i c. maybe for the new tip on the stock TC muffler, you can make it small (2inches) then open up to around 2.5 or watever (matching the other side). and OF COURSE you will have to get 2 new tips so it mathces. i dont lik the stock tips. too small and leaves a gap between the bumper and tip. it looks lik its not hanging in there tightly imo

ya my AW header made it louder and more raspy... sounded like stock at idle
with the s-pipe in... its a little louder. a LOT more noticeable., not as loud as any axle back though.
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by KINGxOFxSKA
how bout something like this.



just add another one to the other side from the same pipe... seems like there's room no?
OK, I here with Mista3 from SL and both of us were like "YES" this can be done, and than I remembered that the pipe that comes through the bottom of the frame is not centered at all. So there is no room for the curve for the other muffler. I am still looking into making another system for you guys.
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kcautotc
this is also why i havnt opted for stylis' magnaflow setup, because im afraid its still a little too loud, with those aftermarket mufflers.

Just to let you know, our system is actually quieter than the TRD. Our axle back for the tC is a quiet tone and doesn't sound choppy like the TRD at all. This is only to clearify, not to bash. :D
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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looks good... where can i find this exhaust system of yours. interested in more pictures :D
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hahaitzskippy
looks good... where can i find this exhaust system of yours. interested in more pictures :D
Just visit our website www.precisionmuffler.com and check out our "TC Section" Lots of goodies and of course our quiet axle back system. :D
Old Feb 27, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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Why are you wanting to go with duals anyway people? Its a 4cyl, it has virtually no performance benefit at all. Infact, the chances of you loosing power is greater than you gaining. I'm assuming you want to do this for show? Even then, in my opinion its a waste of money. Unless you have a V4, which you don't, duals on any 4 is just..

If you really want to run duals, go for it but i think its pretty much worthless. The few duals i've seen on a tC doesn't look right, definitely doesn't look right on the xa. The xb can pull it off, but i still wouldn't do it.

Good luck with what you decide i guess.
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This was already discussed about the dual set-up, in fact I already went over that as well.

But you gotta remember that Scions are made for our own personalization. What you might not like, is cool to someone else. And thats not the point anyway, the way you personalize your ride is an expression of your self. Just a reflect about Scion in itself.

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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Stylis
This was already discussed about the dual set-up, in fact I already went over that as well.

But you gotta remember that Scions are made for our own personalization. What you might not like, is cool to someone else. And thats not the point anyway, the way you personalize your ride is an expression of your self. Just a reflect about Scion in itself.

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Well of course, but Scion isn't the only car this rule applys to. They are just the only company to market this. Aftermarket has always been about making your car your own, wether you wanted more performance for speed and/or cornering, or you wanted to build a show car. Yes, i know its all about making your car your own. But i really don't see why people do mods that serve absolutely no purpose like this. I'm not trying to be disrespectful or put down anyone that has duals, but i haven't read any thing to show me theres a practical side to this. Anytime i debate with someone about duals, they always bring up the personalization side to it. Its nothing new, like i said, Scion was just the first company to offically market a craving, growing market.
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Originally Posted by KINGxOFxSKA
how bout something like this.



just add another one to the other side from the same pipe.
There are a few tCs that have this set-up. I'll have to find the link.

One would tend to think that dual exhaust set-ups would make the gases flow more freely, which would be great if driving at freeway speeds all of the time and if you have more hp than just the intake, header, and muffler additions. While it my look "cool", I would rather not have theloss of torque for the much needed acceleration.



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