mmw does not HAVE to provide a dyno.. they were courteous enough to even give us a dyno in the first place.

and if you actually searched, you will find out what parts they did have on the car when it was dyno'ed, i found it, so im sure you can.

 

I've seen it sir. But when they first came out on their website they sold their products with dyno that stated 26hp. They did that and they didn't have to but they did that to make people fall for the product being the best gains. And later you hear that the headers itself is not 26hp its more then just that. I'm just saying if they can make the product they can be a little more honest about it. If yoursearch they even tried to pay people or give people discount to dyno their headers I'm just giving Tsudo a tip to not lead Scion Life the wrong way about their products.

 

No, seriously they DID have to. Especially after GSC Motorsports raised the bar and did their intake and header round-ups with dynos - now that was courteous!

xjamiex is right, MMW created a lot of confusion with the original 26HP claim. Then they had to say no, actually it's only 14 - which is good high-end performance - but that creates a PR problem for your company when you have to backtrack, no matter how good the product is.

Any mfr selling a performance product -I/H/E, turbo, SC - is more or less obligated to provide a dyno because most of the other companies are. And Tsudo will not see the sales figures they hope for this header unless tC customers believe they're getting good bang for their buck.

 

Wiat, so this new header is a copy of the MMW header? I don't understand, you say its coming out soon, but is it because you just bought a bunch of them from MMW and are reselling them with different badges? Can you please clarify? I am just curious, because I have no information about your headers. Here at PrecisionMuffler.com we find out about all headers and test them, but have never heard of your header before.

 

Doesn’t the word tsudo or sudo stand for fake or copy? Cant find the right word they Tsudo’ed, LOL

 

Yes its pseudo, it means "not genuine but having the appearance of.

funny they would choose a name so similar to that...
they prob thought it sounded Jap...

 

HAHAHAHA

Pseu·do [soo-doh]
–adjective
1. Not actually but having the appearance of; pretended; false or spurious; sham.

 

Uhh, you guys just now realized that?
JK Their name is very suggestive, but from what I've heard, they have decent stuff.

 

I got their N1 cat back, not TOO shabby...and the price is good.

 

Yea there stuff is good because its all made in china, all computer and tig welded. lol cheap labor yo

 

 

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Weapon-R all the way.

 

Dyno...

 

if i saw decent numbers id buy it IMMEDIATELY

 

so where is this Dyno???

 

I don't think they planned on dyno-ing it anytime soon. At least not that I heard. Then again, there haven't been any updates from anyone on it in quite a while... so I wonder if maybe it was a direct rip off of the MMW header and they're maybe talking about that offline?

 

I was still waiting for my question to be answered from earlier as well.

 

Just got mine today. Looks very nice and everything is included. I'll update once I install next week. I have the Megan header now so I'll have a nice comparison.

 

Its a copy of the MMW header. MMW had nothing to do with the making of the Tsudo header

 

So if this tsudo header is in fact an exact copy of the MMW header, does that mean the performance(hp/tq gains) and quality of the tusdo header should be pretty much identical to the MMW? Its hard to trust that this is just as good as the MMW header.