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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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All this talk over intakes and headers is getting old. when are some compnaies going to come out with lightened UDP. i had one on my old car and it was awesome. it freed up so much power from the engine. btw the udp is a lightened crank pully.
Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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i hear alot of people talking about these but have never actually had them on one of my cars.... how much of a difference does it make (hp wise), and is it safe for your engine/tranny
Old Feb 24, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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doesnt free up very much power
Old Feb 24, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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The crank pulley frees up a ton of torque, I had the whole Unorthadox Racing kit on my 2002 Celica GT-S. Very wise investment.
Old Feb 24, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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does anyone make one for the tC?
Old Feb 24, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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yes im highly interested in UDP
Old Feb 24, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by IndigoDreams
doesnt free up very much power
it freed up 9 horses/7lbs of tq on my escort zx2.......thats better than most intakes.


This is a cry out to a machine shop or some aftermarket company...........make the udp for the tC!!!!!
Old Feb 24, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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yeah the pullies would deff make a difference in power for this car.
Old Feb 24, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Crank pully is usually a bad idea,...the Alternator pulleys and the Power Steering ones worked well for my h22 accord. But, you shouldnt throw on a lightened crank pulley because it could mess up your crank over time....but i guess being this careful is just me, everyone else seems to think that im crazy with the comments I make.
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if i got a lighter alternator pully wouldnt that make more power to prevent my lights from flashing when my sub hits?
Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by aarontrini85
if i got a lighter alternator pully wouldnt that make more power to prevent my lights from flashing when my sub hits?
No, actually it would be bad to have a lighter alternator pulley because its actually making the belt work less...so it would be bad for a big system. and would probably make your lights dim.
Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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ok just checking i guess ill just wait and get another battery once i get my new system

and sorry for draging this off topic like that
Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:48 PM
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i too want an UDP, i think it would help alot
Old Feb 25, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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You may want to check Perrin they make pulleys for the xa/xb. If thats any help.
Old Feb 25, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by aarontrini85
if i got a lighter alternator pully wouldnt that make more power to prevent my lights from flashing when my sub hits?
It will have absolutely no effect on the output of the alternator. The output is affected by rpm (up to the regulation point) and the internal design of the alternator. It has nothing to do with how easy or hard the pulley itself is to turn.
Old Feb 25, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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I should also note that if you are talking the engine damper this is more then a pulley: it removes the vibration from the engine. A near crazy idea to remove this. As it directly effects the longevity of the engine, if not why would the factory, you know the guys that give you a warranty, go through all the trouble of making a heavy three piece damper if it was NOT needed? Simple it is needed especially with a steel crank which I assume the tC has. As steel tends to ring more then a cast crank. Also longer stroke cranks ala tC also tend to ring more. Basically meaning only a cringing newbie with no knowledge of fundamental engine dynamics would ever contemplating bolting on a light weight solid aluminum damper. THIS WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY PERIOD.

http://dinancars.com/whitepapersFile.asp?ID=5

Fact: the factory spends big $$$ on each and every engine to make and install harmonic dampers.

Fact: MPG and HP would go up if the factory just milled a cheap aluminum pulley.

Fact: no factory does it. Why?

OK break-up into small grounps and discuss amoung yourselves.
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i have to say it... i love you oldman, ur pretty much, well the MAN. Keep on keepin on oldman, i got ur back
Old Feb 25, 2005 | 02:06 AM
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engifineer and oldman

Some of these kids could learn something from you guys.
Old Feb 25, 2005 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by oldman
I should also note that if you are talking the engine damper this is more then a pulley: it removes the vibration from the engine. A near crazy idea to remove this. As it directly effects the longevity of the engine, if not why would the factory, you know the guys that give you a warranty, go through all the trouble of making a heavy three piece damper if it was NOT needed? Simple it is needed especially with a steel crank which I assume the tC has. As steel tends to ring more then a cast crank. Also longer stroke cranks ala tC also tend to ring more. Basically meaning only a cringing newbie with no knowledge of fundamental engine dynamics would ever contemplating bolting on a light weight solid aluminum damper. THIS WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY PERIOD.

http://dinancars.com/whitepapersFile.asp?ID=5

Fact: the factory spends big $$$ on each and every engine to make and install harmonic dampers.

Fact: MPG and HP would go up if the factory just milled a cheap aluminum pulley.

Fact: no factory does it. Why?

OK break-up into small grounps and discuss amoung yourselves.
Great link!
Old Feb 25, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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[quote="oldman"]Basically meaning only a cringing newbie with no knowledge of fundamental engine dynamics would ever contemplating bolting on a light weight solid aluminum damper. THIS WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY PERIOD.[quote/]

guess im a "cringing idiot with no knowledge".



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