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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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if a 2006 2 door hatchback mazda 3 raced a 2005 tC and they both were stock who would win? and why?
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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2005 tC because there is no such thing as a two door Mazda 3.
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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manual tC vs. manual 3 = close race
manual tC vs. auto 3 = TC
auto tC vs. auto 3 = close but tC will likely win
auto tC vs. manual 3 = likely 3

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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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im going to say the tC will win every time except if the tC is an auto, and the Mazda is a stick. Those 3's just are not as fast as the tC. I have an auto and i have raced my friend who has an auto3 and it wasnt close at all. had around 1 and 1/2 car lengths by the middle of 2nd gear.
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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You didn't specify what kind of race?

Mazda 3 S 2.0L 160hp@6500 150tq@4500 2826lbs

Scion Tc 2.4L 160hp@6000 163tq@4200 2905lbs
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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the better driver
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by matty-tC
the better driver
ROFL Buhaaaahahahahahaha...
true
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by matty-tC
the better driver
Well said
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/mazd...mktid=ga396034
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http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/mazda/mazda3/index.html


sorry 4door only in 2006



so your right no such creature
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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Assuming the drivers have equal skill, I'd say the tC. The 3 has a slightly longer powerband but we have more ft/lb to make up for that. Not to mention our cars are geared lower. We'd have them off the line and then they may start catching up in the later gears. But my guess is that, unless you are doing an endless race, it won't be catching up fast enough to pass the tC by the end of the qt mile. If I remember right one site has the 3's qt mile at about .2 seconds behind the tC's.

But on a course the 3 would probably win.
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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road course or autox - the mazda would kill the tc... assuming the drivers are equal.
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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Float like a butterfly sting like a bee....mazda 3 can't beat tc...unless its a road course B.....
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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if both cars are bone stock and the drivers are fairly equally skilled I would think the tC would probably have a bit of an advantage.
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With proper tuning9suspension).... the TC would win on a road course as well.... assuming someone knew how to drive.
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by matty-tC
the better driver
couldnt have been better said lol.

but looking at the 1/4 mile times for both posted by car n driver the tC would win with a 15.4 over the 16.0 that the 3 does but it does depend on the driver
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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I raced my friends mazda 3 im auto and he was in tiptronic i only had the k&n intake and i have 18 inch rims.. But i raced him like 4 times from a dead start and off the line he toook me by like a half a car after that the tc kicks in and i took him by like 2 car lengths .. WE only went up to like 60mph. and the mazda 3 was stock with 1 passanger and i also had 1 passanger~!
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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3's do got some speed at high end... if it was 1/4 mile race its a tie, pending on the driver. if it was a 1/8 mile possible the tC can take it...
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tC wins with 0.6 second difference according to magazine reviews



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