Notices
Scion tC 1G Forced Induction Turbo and supercharger applications...

08 supercharger for the tc

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-14-2008, 06:31 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
thispecialk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 367
Default 08 supercharger for the tc

is it exactly tthe same as the older chargers. its there alot of problems with the 08 s/c
thispecialk is offline  
Old 10-14-2008, 06:45 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
tcCALI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 2,231
Default

no its not the same..... they fixed the problems the old ones had.
tcCALI is offline  
Old 10-14-2008, 06:48 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
tCtCtC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: North Hills, CA
Posts: 13,857
Default

be sure its 07-09
tCtCtC is offline  
Old 10-14-2008, 11:16 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
thispecialk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 367
Default

wat was the problem that they solve how is it different? and do u guys think the price is gonna go down like the older model
thispecialk is offline  
Old 10-15-2008, 05:40 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (5)
 
gompka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,713
Default

There isn't much info out about experiences with the 07-08 supercharger. What exactly did they "fix"? I have tracked the problem with my 06 to cheap bearings and possibly a bad tolerance on the shaft/bearing fitment. Unless they fixed this the problems will continue, just because they changed the mounting bracket doesn't mean they changed anything on the inside of the charger, i'd be really interested in someone taking apart their 07-08 pulley side and checking to see if the bearings are still rubber sealed or if trd put metal sealed bearings in the new s/c
gompka is offline  
Old 10-15-2008, 06:01 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
tcCALI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 2,231
Default

Originally Posted by thispecialk
wat was the problem that they solve how is it different? and do u guys think the price is gonna go down like the older model
i believe most of the changes happend to the actual engine of the tc. not to sure what they changed on the actual s/c unit........... somebody explain please. and the price probably wwont go down till the new tc comes out im guessing.
tcCALI is offline  
Old 10-15-2008, 09:53 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
thispecialk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 367
Default

o yea i hear they making a replacement for the tc. if no one explains about the tc i might just hold off on the super charger and trade in the tc for the new replacement
thispecialk is offline  
Old 10-15-2008, 09:54 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
thispecialk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 367
Default

i dont feel like buying the s/c if there is still problems. like someone of u guys say all they change was how u mount it
thispecialk is offline  
Old 10-15-2008, 12:35 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
SL Member
 
JrTcs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: California
Posts: 313
Default

Just to clarify, the bad models is PTR01, the NEW and perfectly find models is PTR41, i have a BRAND NEW !! one for sale in the classifieds, since i know the next question is why are you selling it, its b/c i am moving to NY and im trying to make some money to be secure over there.
JrTcs is offline  
Old 10-15-2008, 03:19 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (5)
 
gompka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,713
Default

Originally Posted by JrTcs
Just to clarify, the bad models is PTR01, the NEW and perfectly find models is PTR41, i have a BRAND NEW !! one for sale in the classifieds, since i know the next question is why are you selling it, its b/c i am moving to NY and im trying to make some money to be secure over there.
I have a PTR41 that just died and kikcaffine has a PTR01 he changed the bearings in recently, only difference is they beefed up the mounting bracket on the pulley side. Both models still use the same problematic bearing/shaft combo. I'm working on a fix a different type of bearing should fix this. I will find out after i get the new supercharger and i can take it to the machine shop to get tolerances checked.
gompka is offline  
Old 10-15-2008, 08:33 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
1CLNTC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: FL
Posts: 155
Default

Originally Posted by gompka
Originally Posted by JrTcs
Just to clarify, the bad models is PTR01, the NEW and perfectly find models is PTR41, i have a BRAND NEW !! one for sale in the classifieds, since i know the next question is why are you selling it, its b/c i am moving to NY and im trying to make some money to be secure over there.
I have a PTR41 that just died and kikcaffine has a PTR01 he changed the bearings in recently, only difference is they beefed up the mounting bracket on the pulley side. Both models still use the same problematic bearing/shaft combo. I'm working on a fix a different type of bearing should fix this. I will find out after i get the new supercharger and i can take it to the machine shop to get tolerances checked.
Yea, some of the bearing issues toyoyta has told me is the trd sparks has them sitting for a while and the bearings loose moisture and thats the whole issue.
1CLNTC is offline  
Old 10-15-2008, 08:41 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (5)
 
gompka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,713
Default

Originally Posted by 1CLNTC
Originally Posted by gompka
Originally Posted by JrTcs
Just to clarify, the bad models is PTR01, the NEW and perfectly find models is PTR41, i have a BRAND NEW !! one for sale in the classifieds, since i know the next question is why are you selling it, its b/c i am moving to NY and im trying to make some money to be secure over there.
I have a PTR41 that just died and kikcaffine has a PTR01 he changed the bearings in recently, only difference is they beefed up the mounting bracket on the pulley side. Both models still use the same problematic bearing/shaft combo. I'm working on a fix a different type of bearing should fix this. I will find out after i get the new supercharger and i can take it to the machine shop to get tolerances checked.
Yea, some of the bearing issues toyoyta has told me is the trd sparks has them sitting for a while and the bearings loose moisture and thats the whole issue.
That doesn't make sense. How do you figure that they don't loose moisture (lubrication) while they are on your car? They aren't lubricated by the engine oil, they have a set amount of lubrication inside, but the problem is that they are rubber sealed bearings when they should be teflon metal sealed bearings which have less friction, heat up less, and sustain lubrication much longer.
gompka is offline  
Old 10-15-2008, 09:30 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
1CLNTC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: FL
Posts: 155
Default

Originally Posted by gompka
Originally Posted by 1CLNTC
Originally Posted by gompka
Originally Posted by JrTcs
Just to clarify, the bad models is PTR01, the NEW and perfectly find models is PTR41, i have a BRAND NEW !! one for sale in the classifieds, since i know the next question is why are you selling it, its b/c i am moving to NY and im trying to make some money to be secure over there.
I have a PTR41 that just died and kikcaffine has a PTR01 he changed the bearings in recently, only difference is they beefed up the mounting bracket on the pulley side. Both models still use the same problematic bearing/shaft combo. I'm working on a fix a different type of bearing should fix this. I will find out after i get the new supercharger and i can take it to the machine shop to get tolerances checked.
Yea, some of the bearing issues toyoyta has told me is the trd sparks has them sitting for a while and the bearings loose moisture and thats the whole issue.
That doesn't make sense. How do you figure that they don't loose moisture (lubrication) while they are on your car? They aren't lubricated by the engine oil, they have a set amount of lubrication inside, but the problem is that they are rubber sealed bearings when they should be teflon metal sealed bearings which have less friction, heat up less, and sustain lubrication much longer.
im guessing the movement of it being in use distributes the lube constantly, i agree they should be better.
1CLNTC is offline  
Old 10-15-2008, 09:50 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (5)
 
gompka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,713
Default

Originally Posted by 1CLNTC
Originally Posted by gompka
Originally Posted by 1CLNTC
Originally Posted by gompka
Originally Posted by JrTcs
Just to clarify, the bad models is PTR01, the NEW and perfectly find models is PTR41, i have a BRAND NEW !! one for sale in the classifieds, since i know the next question is why are you selling it, its b/c i am moving to NY and im trying to make some money to be secure over there.
I have a PTR41 that just died and kikcaffine has a PTR01 he changed the bearings in recently, only difference is they beefed up the mounting bracket on the pulley side. Both models still use the same problematic bearing/shaft combo. I'm working on a fix a different type of bearing should fix this. I will find out after i get the new supercharger and i can take it to the machine shop to get tolerances checked.
Yea, some of the bearing issues toyoyta has told me is the trd sparks has them sitting for a while and the bearings loose moisture and thats the whole issue.
That doesn't make sense. How do you figure that they don't loose moisture (lubrication) while they are on your car? They aren't lubricated by the engine oil, they have a set amount of lubrication inside, but the problem is that they are rubber sealed bearings when they should be teflon metal sealed bearings which have less friction, heat up less, and sustain lubrication much longer.
im guessing the movement of it being in use distributes the lube constantly, i agree they should be better.
Plausible guess, but everyone guessing on here will result in a useless forum. I'm just trying to put up concrete facts about the s/c. The supercharger can sit in storage for a long long time and it shouldn't affect the bearings at all. Take a look at wikipedia about sealed bearings.
gompka is offline  
Old 10-16-2008, 06:33 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
thispecialk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 367
Default

so if i get the supercharger i gotta take it apart and install new bearings? wont that void the warrenty? how long do s/c last if u dont change the bearings?
thispecialk is offline  
Old 10-16-2008, 02:39 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
 
GQQSE13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Decatur, IL
Posts: 5,942
Default

o gotta remember to; some of the people who have had problems also changed pully's and things like that, that probably contributed to it
GQQSE13 is offline  
Old 10-16-2008, 03:18 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (5)
 
gompka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,713
Default

Originally Posted by thispecialk
so if i get the supercharger i gotta take it apart and install new bearings? wont that void the warrenty? how long do s/c last if u dont change the bearings?
My supercharger lasted all of 6 months. If you get the bearings changed at a shop that knows what they are doing there is no way to tell if you changed the bearings.

A 9.5 psi pulley will increase the speed the bearings on the pulley are spinning which will kill the bearings faster yes, but only because they are not the right bearings for the application. Getting the teflon metal sealed bearings should take care of this problem, again i'm not 100% sure but thats what all my research points to, in the very least it should extend the life atleast 3 fold i'm hoping.
gompka is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rain7905643
PPC: Engine / Drivetrain
3
06-13-2018 05:29 AM
deademon
Scion tC 1G Owners Lounge
1
03-31-2016 09:25 PM
corbinortiz
Scion tC 1G Owners Lounge
9
10-02-2015 02:45 PM
MisterSkiz
Introduction Forum
1
09-27-2015 10:25 PM
N0AuTHoRiTy
PPC: Vehicles
3
09-22-2015 12:19 AM



Quick Reply: 08 supercharger for the tc



All times are GMT. The time now is 07:19 PM.