This might seem very obvious to some but i cant figure it out, my friend has a TIB and they sell different stages of Superchargers that get him up to like 300hp,
the only Supercharger I've seen for the tC get you to 200hp. Is there any reason there aren't more powerful superchargers out there for the tC?

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I can only think that there's not much of a market for them. If someone is going to go s/c they're going to go with TRD, even though it a centrifugal style blower. If you going to void warranty, why not go with a turbo.

 

The S/C is a rebadged Vortech S/C that is in compliance with the emissions law to be street legal in 50 states. TRD has now all rights to the S/C and the only reason why i think that other S/C companies don't make one,
is because they don't believe that they are going to gain much from it. They don't believe that they'll make a good return as they do from other major tuner companies/cars

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with mods, tuning, and some money you can get up to 300 easily with the TRD S/C. It's a rebadged Vortech V-trim Supercharger. Look for Karl's (IceNine) S/C build.

 

I think that companies don't make them because they see it this way. Why make a S/C that will void the warranty, when TRD already makes one that does not void the warranty?

Yes it will make more power, but like BuddhasTC said they won't sell as many as they would like.

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With the issues that they have keeping the current SC together, I doubt they wanted to push it much further. I have heard of failures as well with the SC that TRD made available for the 3.4 V6 as well. Not sure why they are having these issues with the SC's they use.

 

Sorry, but I disagree. 300whp on the S/C is not an easy task. More mods, and more money must be thrown on top of the S/C just for it to even break 250whp. If it was that easy, then you would see more than 1, known S/C with 300hp #'s.

 

There are a few key things that Karl runs to get to the 300 WHP point. #1 - Fuel Management (GReddy e-Manage), Larger injectors (570cc but 550 will work), NST 12lb pulley, Cams, and meth injection.

The other mods he has are pretty trivial (Header/full exhaust, air filter, other various small mods).

It's entirely doable to reach 300 whp without purchasing a larger Vortec S/C (G-trim's cost about $4k i think).

 

You make it sound eaiser than it is. If it was that easy to just look at Karls list, and go slap on those mods, then we wouldn't have only 1 S/C with 300#'s and every other S/C on this board with barely 230whp. Cams in themselves is not a quick in and out job. The labor going into installing cams by itself is enough to hinder most of the teeny boppers on SL, who can't afford it.

Simple route would be to add nitrous to your S/C to make that 300whp mark.

 

That's true, but neither is putting in a larger S/C.

 

And the breaking superchargers has little, I infer from Garage1217, to do with power. Either it breaks as is or it doesn't. So if you've got a good supercharger, it's pulleys, injectors, and a tune for somewhere about 300 bhp? I don't think 300 whp is cake.

Oh well, why bother with the easy; it'd be a lost cause from the start.

 

I used to be apart of the s/c bashing band wagon until I found just how much of the failures were associated with crappy installs.

 

I have ZERO respect for rhythmnsmoke, because he is nothing more than a ZPI cheerleader. But I can tell you - there is ZERO truth to what he says. It's NOT difficult to get a vortech supercharged tC to 300+ whp.

krdshrk knows that my 311whp SC'd tC sees 80 miles a day of daily driving.

The problem is simple, Get off the TRD map. Even if you DON'T do cams, you can still get to 270-280whp with just an emanage, pulley and exhaust. But the fact is, additional duration on the exhaust side benefits vortech SC's greatly - whereas turbos benefit more from overlap.

Don't believe rhythmnsmoke. He has a vested interest in swinging people to ZPI. And that's that.

 

i have my sc for 2k beating on it and no problems i also just have mmw header installed with no wrap or heat protective but no problems besides a lil rattle that can be fix.. i dunno wat kinda hp i have so far.. but i know have should have around 225-235whp with my mods... i dont have an a/f gauge so i didnt make my intake yet... i would really say if i went with better injectors and intake with eman.. tune i would be around 255whp-265whp and add water meth mite get 275whp and thats most ill get.. cause garg... had 252 whp with just cust. intake 10psi megen header with spipe.. i blieve..
the bill for that is
injectors around ($400)
cust.. intake($100)
eman.. with pnp wires ($800)
water meth if i could get a deal will be ($600)
now add that to the bill of a sc
sc ($3k)
nst 9.5 ($90)
bosch 110 ($55)
mmw header ($550)
draxas exhaust($500)??
and last thing tuned ($

 

IceNine, have you run the 1/4 mile yet???

 

Jeez, would you drop it? It's starting to sound like you need justification for going supercharged on your tC. Rhythmnsmoke doesn't have any "vested interest" in ZPI other than that he knows the people personally. So ismokeguys got a free turbo; that's because she won it fair and square. Honestly, I hate supporting ZPI but aside from crappy shipping, they've done nothing but support the Scion community and they stick around even after all this anti-ZPI drama. I want to see more power out of supercharged tC's and the like but good grief, I'm getting sick of this.

 

It's not enough to scare me off... Next summer be on the look-out for my set-up... shootin for over 300whp aswell.

 

I voice my opinion. Don't like it? Tough. I'm not here to play nice with shady dealers or people. ZPI and Rhythmnsmoke are on the top of my list of shady dealers and people and I don't think ANYONE should find anything they say as being trustworthy. If that makes my accomplishments any less valid, so be it. I won't sweat it.

Like I said before - the F-trim SC is fine. At 10lb boost it delivers 311whp with supporting mods, and the SC itself is capable of even more boost if you overdrive other pulleys. With proper internals, you could easily see 400whp or more.

 

Not until the spring. Englishtown is closed for the season.

 

You know what Screw you man....... He just tells it like it is I hate the fact that you post negative things about people if it's not your way.....whatever I guess take it easy killer!