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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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dont think it was climate controlled it was like 20 degrees in that part of their shop
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 12:29 AM
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alright. I thought the actual dyno cell was climate controlled.
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 12:34 AM
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it may be i didnt go in it just looked from the outside
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 01:01 AM
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i know crush but at least my car is fine
yeah thats what really matters bro
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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its really amazing how much temperature can effect performance
Yep. Temp and baro correction on standalone FTW
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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its really amazing how much temperature can effect performance
Yep. Temp and baro correction on standalone FTW
Does this super secret ems your working correct those things or is it only standalones
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dave2610
Originally Posted by paul_dezod
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its really amazing how much temperature can effect performance
Yep. Temp and baro correction on standalone FTW
Does this super secret ems your working correct those things or is it only standalones

our ecu adjust for temps and humidity so yes this super secret thing will be able to correct things
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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so if our car corrects for temp what the heck is going on with my car?
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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my guess would be heat soak. Before I added water meth to my car, after a couple of auto cross runs my car felt like it lost 20hp or more (in the summer time). The hotter it gets, the more your ecu pulls timing. If it didnt pull timing then you risk detonation. It is a good thing that your car runs richer now that it is warm, the ecu is doing it's job. That's the beauty of a piggy-back, the toyota engineers hard work on developing temperature parameters offsetting timing and fuel trim remains intact, where as you would be looking at countless hours and hours of tuning a stand-alone with a knock-box and ear phones to tune for varience in temps. I know with the s2000 there is a map for the aem standalone which mimics factory trims as a starting point, but for the tC... not to sure
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i had the same problem
for me it was the wastegate
it wouldnt open all the way. it was getting stuck on itself. it finally came loose and opens all the way now.
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dave2610
so if our car corrects for temp what the heck is going on with my car?

wats happening is when ur hitting boost which is when ur piggy back decides to take its turn after 4k at wot.....it doesn fix its self or compensate for temps and humidity but under 3k and partial throttle its all ecu
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ahh i got you. i wanna thank all you guys for the help
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Originally Posted by blown_xa
my guess would be heat soak. Before I added water meth to my car, after a couple of auto cross runs my car felt like it lost 20hp or more (in the summer time). The hotter it gets, the more your ecu pulls timing. If it didnt pull timing then you risk detonation. It is a good thing that your car runs richer now that it is warm, the ecu is doing it's job. That's the beauty of a piggy-back, the toyota engineers hard work on developing temperature parameters offsetting timing and fuel trim remains intact, where as you would be looking at countless hours and hours of tuning a stand-alone with a knock-box and ear phones to tune for varience in temps. I know with the s2000 there is a map for the aem standalone which mimics factory trims as a starting point, but for the tC... not to sure
were you the guy tuning my car with toan?
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my guess would be heat soak. Before I added water meth to my car, after a couple of auto cross runs my car felt like it lost 20hp or more (in the summer time). The hotter it gets, the more your ecu pulls timing. If it didnt pull timing then you risk detonation. It is a good thing that your car runs richer now that it is warm, the ecu is doing it's job. That's the beauty of a piggy-back, the toyota engineers hard work on developing temperature parameters offsetting timing and fuel trim remains intact, where as you would be looking at countless hours and hours of tuning a stand-alone with a knock-box and ear phones to tune for varience in temps. I know with the s2000 there is a map for the aem standalone which mimics factory trims as a starting point, but for the tC... not to sure
were you the guy tuning my car with toan?
I don't do the tuning but yes, I do road-test the cars with Toan after dyno tuning. Im a tech and focus on installs. Im pretty good at trouble shooting issues with cars but I would have to test drive your car to get a better idea on what could be going on.
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I meant were u the guy I went on the road test with
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indeed
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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ok good stuff just trying to put face to the screen name
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