FYI....Dezod was not the first company to make a kit for the tC. It's a moot point, but just putting that out there.

 

These threads are quite humorous indeed. I love how they ALWAYS turn into arguments.

I will only state this:
We have been around since 2005 turboing Scions. We have studied this platform and embraced it 100%. We are continuing to grow with this platform and evolve through it's natural progression. I feel we have fallen off of the planned mark a bit due to some other factors AND this economy, however we are still alive and ticking with a strong pulse and ear to this community. We reas A LOT, listen even more and have LOTS of BIG things for this community that will accommodate all levels of power.

I have prototypes ready to begin testing as I type this. So no worries there.

Furthermore, to dispel some of the falsies in this thread:

1. We where not the first into this market. That was Scion Speed. We where third.

2. We have founded and developed a lot of parts for this community including the current K1 rods, Wiseco pistons and a slew of others that everyone is now allowed to reap the benefits of...

3. We have made LOTS of excellent information public knowledge to this community over the years and still offer plenty to it via our Tech Notes page on our website.
http://www.dezod.com/tech_notes.cfm

4. We have the most amount of kits outstanding at this moment compared to any other kit manufacturer still in business. So of course you are going to hear more about product failures and such. Statistics do not work in our favor there. More outstanding = more potential failures.

5. We have taken some AWESOME proactive measures to make the kit even better as an entry level system (which is what it was designed for) including price reduction, more components added, longer warranty on products and even modular component upgrades. So again, the S1 was designed around modular components that can be upgraded down the road should someone decide to be more radical with their 2AZ. Not everyone wants or needs 400-500whp, nor wants to invest that type of $$ into their car. Some do and some don't. We will be supporting ALL levels of this. We have paved the way already with larger injector options, standalone engine managements, fuel components etc.....

6. For the record, our current failure rate for downpipes is less than 5% for 2009, our current failure rate for intercollers for 2009 is 0% and our current failure rate for turbo manifolds, which where due to craftsmanship (and not incorrect installation on the customer's end) is approx 6%. This last statistic is a little high for our liking, but we have some excellent information to share about our warranty program on on that item in the near future.

 

They tested their products by driving a tC for years. They drove the car daily. They drove the car daily. Wait - did i say they drove the car daily? With all the gauges and data logging - they knew how to run a product and test. AKA R&D

I wish they would come out with a better manifold but other then that, i like the kit.

I would like to see the dozens of dezod posts on negative topics, through their 4-5 years run. Then take into account that maybe 20% of them had bad tuning. Whats the final number? I hate searching on this forum - but i will read them if you gather the links.

 

They tested by driving a tC with their kit for 8 months according to Paul. Not Years..

 

^ on whos part - the kit provider (dezod), the tuner, or the installer? All factors in possible failure.

 

Regardless of opinion, actions have been taken to counter-act that number and bounce down quite a bit. Details to come.

Furthermore, Joe had the kit on his car for over 30K miles. The kit was released after 8 months of R&D of him beating the SNOT out of the car and hitting the drag strip once to twice a week. It was tested for sure. On the street and off.

We used to have about 10-15 videos on putfile from all of the drag races versus Ford Lightnings, Camaros, Mustangs, Cobalt SSs, Vettes...but I they deleted our account due to inactivity.

 

paul when is this alpha kit coming out

 

personally... i never understood why someone would buy a kit like this...for $3500 to get just over the 250 mark.. i don't see where its worth it. when you have to upgrade almost everything to get the power (over 300). so after you upgrade everything. your spending a hell of alot more than ptuning.
dezod kit= starter kit. i can agree with that.. not something i would ever rock. but if i had to choose from dezod or greddy i would choose dezod

 

lmfao. Who do you work for?

 

agreed ptuning best kit out for the tc desendent very good kit just not liking the bpv or the stock airbox and the dezod kit a good kit for starters

 

I think the Dezod kit is actually a better starter than the Descendant.

If the Descendant kit came with a welded flange for a wastegate and a better intake/bov, I would think differently.

 

in your opinion why do you think this would make it better?

 

It provides a better value for the customer. Everyone knows external wastegates are more costly and can flow more than internal gates (this valuable even for people who are looking for a moderate system). Same goes for the BOV. The intake box is a matter of taste. I'm not doubting your system with an internal gate and bypass valve can make good power.. but it's not comparable vs other available kits. Where's all the extra margin going?

 

I love threads like this there amazing but lmfao is right if I was asking about your products and you threw out those type of failure numbers at me I'd say see ya... And even if you did have a soultion for them like a warranty or something I'd still say see ya... Just for the simple fact that why go throught the hassel of having it replaced when the part should been designed to have less of a failure rate to even start with.

 

i agree.... i mean i really don't understand why descendant kit components are what they are. i would imagine to keep it looking and sounding stock. due to the cali strict rules.. am i right?

but now this is my thoughts.i think when a customer thinks of a turbo kit. the loud blow off sound, and half expecting the typical turbo set up "look".

 

I think each customer wants something different. There are lots of people who do NOT want that blow off sound and lots of people who do NOT want the typical "look".

As someone mentioned before, to each his own. Buy the kit that you think will fit your needs the best and don't bother smashing on anyone else's choice.

 

That stock air box intake is so sexy yummmm

 

lol^^^

 

I think they were going for a carb-legal cert with this kit... that could be why it was so much damn money before.

 

I agree