Oh man Paul, you can't believe how ____ED I was when I tried to get into my Putfile account a while back, only to be redirected to Edmunds. That whole site along with my account vanished. No prior emails no nothing. I was ____ED, as I had vids on there of when we were NA running the drag strip in the low 15sec 1/4 miles. Everytime I tell someone about running 15.1 with just an exhaust, I get the proverbial BS flag raised. And I can't throw a vid in their face cause funky Putfile shut down.

 

Who is LMFAO and why did he delete all his posts?

 

I know Trav. I was like WTF. Where did all of our stuff go? We had pics, vids and the whole nine...........

 

I think it was a bogus account made by someone whom works for another company.

 

Soon! We are testing now.

The "kit" will be sold as upgraded components to the existing S1 changing out manifold, downpipe, gate, oil lines and IC with 2 new pipes.

The kit will probably be sold without engine management (it will be the customer's choice if they want to use their existing ems, an AEM EMS, a Haltech or whatever)

 

Ohh.. we might have to work something out, Paul ;)

 

I guess it all depends on how you look at it...In our opinion a better valve for the customer is something that is capable of running flawlessly for years & years to come versus adding another shiny component that has absolutly NO PERFORMANCE GAIN & has the potencial to fail because it doesnt meet the criteria the OEM manufactures demand.

Think about it...do you know of any OEM turbocharged vehicles that use an external wastegate or B.O.V.?? Trust me there's a reason behind everything.

External gates & BOV do work great...don't get me wrong, my point is that they were not needed to achieve what our goal was with the DESCENDANT kit.

As for extra margin that depends on how you look at it also...if you prefer a kit that comes with an extrenal gate & BOV because the look cool instead of a kit that comes with a lifetime warranty, is made here in the USA & is backed up by the most winning Scion tC on the planet it's your choose. All I am here to do is point this out because at the end of the day that is what it actually boils down to.

 

That was a minor aberration and has been taken care of... Just ignore all of that.

Tomas

 

Are you trying to be sneaky and say that he works for us? Do you really want to go there again?

 

That's quite a liable statement there sir. Freudian slip of sorts? Guilty conscious? Do you have something you'd like say or admit? If not, then disregard.

The comment was not targeted to anyone in particular if you must know. Just generalized statement. End of story

Edit: typing > me

 

Oh no he di'int. *snap

Either way both kits rock, it's personal preference. One is a beginner kit (very nice kit I wish I got it) and best kit available (my personal pref) for autos without any trans mods or lighter springs. Other is kit that has huge possibilities, sick mani and some nice options for massive gains. Get what you want, no need for the 'this kit is better' stuff. Kinda strange neither company tried to suck in Ptunning to the war, those guys are avoiding this like the plague. Either way I like both kits, if I had a manual I would have got Descendant, and right now I wish I had got Dezod on my auto.

Oh, and big ups to Dezod you guys saved my ___ on this kit and have the best customer service I have seen in a long time. Thank you for fixing my failure

 

OEM manufactures do so because of costs.. much like why you're doing it. Not because of longevity or lack of.

On my TSi Talon I had a Greddy Type S for years and about 50k miles seeing 18-20psi all day... and funny - first mods for those cars was to replace the stock bypass valve with something better..

 

LOL...where did you get this info?

 

It's common sense. Why pay more for a product that costs more because of higher cost materials when a lesser quality product can achieve the moderate goals OEM needs?

^^ That's what your stance is too isn't it?

 

Typical politics or your just lucky the mod's like you because if I would have posted that I would have gotten 2-3 phone calls, followed up by a warning, then a call from internetbrands.

just my $0.02

 

i wish my car was a bypass not a atmo just for sound my car is quiet for its speed get rid of the bov sound all you would hear was spool in every day driving then it gets loud from my wastegate down pipe i put in the recirc fitting so i didnt have to listen to the horible sound that is the hks cat sneeze

 

1st off do you or how much expriance do you have selling components to OEM manufactures?

BTW...whats your point in all of this? You just said the 2 different components both do the same thing...RIGHT??

My point isnt that...my point is that the external gates & or BOV currently available on the market don't meet the quality standards OEM manufactures require. Tial, Greddy, HKS all make AWESOME parts but they are not manufactured to meet ISO certification. Therefor they do not meet the standards they uphold which goes back to my point...I can confidently say our DESCENDANT kit was designed for 100+K miles of use. Nothing more nothing less...

 

You can say it's designed for 100k miles the way it is.. no additional boost, no additional power, etc.

That's why the bypass valve and internal flapper is okay. Try making 500whp+ with those components - oh wait you can't and that's why World Racing replaces all those items.

 

Hows about this. You send me a free kit and I put it on and i'll drive the f outta it. I'll even post a journal online!

 

thats my point...our DESCENDANT kit is the best bang for your buck if you are looking to bolt-on a turbo kit & go! I never claimed anything else...

As for your smart-little-remark...GET IT RIGHT, WE MAKE 900+WHP