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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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Ok so I tried the ssq and it still stalled. Tom I'm gettin 2 pipes welded onto my intake. One for the bov to route into the intake and one for the valve cover breather to go into. We shall see how that works.
Old Nov 2, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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you can open cent your valve cover just as long as the one in the back is hooked up i have mine vented and are you tuned??? and i bet it stalls when you come out of boost and push in the clutch you can solve this by letting of the gas for a second or two then pushing in the clutch
Old Nov 2, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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It'll still stall after I let it coast for about 5 seconds then clutch it. Even if I down shift to a stop after boost it will. As far as I know the one on the back we never touched because there wasn't a need to. And yes I'm tuned....but I am still runnin the stock injectors, my 550s are comin this week.
Old Nov 3, 2008 | 01:49 AM
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sorry but if you say you are tuned the tuner would have def addressed this problem with you
Old Nov 3, 2008 | 01:53 AM
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btw i had this same problem, got the synapse bov with anti-stall kit never had a problem since. and Do not run hard on stock injectors, i guarantee you are running them past 100% duty cycle.
Old Nov 3, 2008 | 01:56 AM
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Who makes the anti stall kit? And can you use the anti stall feature on the ultimate and it'll take care of the stalling?
Old Nov 3, 2008 | 02:00 AM
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synapse makes boh the bov and the anti-stall kit, its just a pice tat goes on the bov to totally seal for maf cars.
Old Nov 3, 2008 | 02:10 AM
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If I route the bov back to intake pipe and the valve cover vent back to intake pipe I should be fixed correct?
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 12:54 AM
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Ok so I routed my bpv and my valve cover vent back into my intake after my maf and hooked vacuum back to my bpv it'll still stall after I hit boost and press in the clutch but my idle seems better when I come up to a stop.
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 04:26 AM
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take a picture of your setup please
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 05:24 AM
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as far as i know, it doesn't matter if either of you valve cover vents are hooked up. there is no vacuum to them.
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 06:08 AM
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synapse will fix the stalling problems.
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 06:16 AM
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is the synapse with anti stall kit a recirc'd bov?
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 06:24 AM
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i believe they make it so it can be recirculated, but they also make an anti stall kit for it that seems to keep it from leaking under vacuum
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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the main stalling problem is fixed. the problem now is that i dont have closed loop control and when it goes from open to closed loop it gives a super rich reading on throttle let off. im looking into open loop map tuning or a black box from dezod right now.
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soflo the synapse with the anti-stall kit is NOT recirculated. the anti-stall kit allows you to still vent to the atmosphere and not have the stalling issues. and it sounds Great! also NO surge what so ever
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 03:27 AM
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boostit06 where are you located in pa? i would like to hear what the synapse bov sounds like as i am considering going to it to stop this damn idle surge
Old Nov 13, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by gingles
the main stalling problem is fixed. the problem now is that i dont have closed loop control and when it goes from open to closed loop it gives a super rich reading on throttle let off. im looking into open loop map tuning or a black box from dezod right now.
What are you using for engine management at the moment? No need to get the Dezod black box, it does nothing that the e-manage Ultimate or F/IC can't do (except add an additional failure point).

*EDIT* Also, if you need any help I'm only 2hrs away in Auburn. I know the tC backwards and forwards.
Old Nov 13, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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^^ the ultimate controls closed loop?
Old Nov 13, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace83
^^ the ultimate controls closed loop?
All of them can, you just need to monitor the fuel trims to keep closed loop happy.



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