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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 04:12 AM
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ok here is the deal. most of you seen my set up and all have beean watching post on s/c reliablility. well over this past weekend coming back from norcal back to socal i noticed that my s/c was more noisey than usual. so i thought nothing of it till i got to work on monday to find oil all over my engine bay. well since i work at a dealer and was talking to trd im now basically screwd. upon opening the the s/c i found the coupling that holds the shaft to the charger, the screw backed out and caused the woodroff key to break and cause the seal inside to leak. im running the zpi pulley. and to make a long story short trd also cant and will not help me even if i work at toyota. so becareful with your set ups and if you want to get more power with the s/c expect the same like my self and highlandermac went through. as of right know i sent the s/c to be looked at by a friend to try and make my s/c stronger. ill keep you all posted.
Old Jun 16, 2006 | 04:16 AM
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aww man ryan.. i hope things get worked out for ya... it was great seeing you at tracy.

good luck! you have a sweet set-up too.
Old Jun 16, 2006 | 06:30 AM
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That sucks..
Old Jun 16, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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Good luck man. Please keep up posted on this!
Old Jun 16, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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You know it's funny how every single person that has a problem also changed a bunch of stuff on the car they weren't supposed to. Then they find out there was a "mistake" made during th installation but can't get warranty work done because of the things they changed. It's made clear before hand that you aren't going to be covered if you change the pulley so why are people so surprise when they can't get help?
Old Jun 16, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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i agree with you josh im just making it clear of what happens with tthe s/c if you start modding it. i was told already by the head of r&d at trd but i wanted to see how far i can puch the envelope. ive foward the pics to him and will have more info on what route i will be taking. Bob thanks again for all the info.
Old Jun 16, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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It's cool I just didn't want this to turn into another "Let's blame TRD" thread. I know that's not where you were going with it but someone would have taken it there.
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im tired of people blaming there s/c problems on the pulleys. Ive had my 9psi pulley on for thousands of miles and dont have a single leak. I think the seal problems are due to the fact that people are overtightening the screws on the shaft when they install it. Also ryan do you think it might have had something to due with the fact that you are injecting nitrous directly into your supercharger?!? Could be a reason for the problem, too much pressure inside the charger and boom..just a thought

either way i hope you work it out and get the car back on the road again, good luck!
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Originally Posted by OutCrnrU
im tired of people blaming there s/c problems on the pulleys. Ive had my 9psi pulley on for thousands of miles and dont have a single leak. I think the seal problems are due to the fact that people are overtightening the screws on the shaft when they install it.
You're probably right. There are people out there with zero problems with a different pulley. But like I said I just find it funny that all the people with problems also have the pulley changed.
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Originally Posted by bLaNc0
Its def. not a pulley problem. Its a mix of bad installation,Aftermarket headers or haveing your headers without your heatshield, the heat apparently causes it to leak. Now whats keeping people from getting the supercharger rebuilt with more durable parts???

I'm not totally disagreeing with you but prove to me that the pulley didn't have anything to do with the problems people are having.

Right now you can't get it rebuilt. I called Vortech 3 times and they told me that it would have to be sent to TRD then TRD would have to send it to then. I think It's a red tape thing. But it can't stay that way forever.
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It's called a contract. One exists between Vortech and TRD that prevents them from selling part for their S/C. Beside Vortech will tell you that they do not, will not, and have not ever sold internal parts for thiir S/C's. You can OLNY send them back to Vortech and have the serviced.
Old Jun 16, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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From what I understand from Vortech Yes. You can try all day long to get the TRD S/C serviced by Vortech or a dealer and it isn't going to happen.
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I find it a bit frustrating when people come here to share their stories and obviously feel terrible and frustrated about what has happend to them and a certain someone on these boards jumps right on their ___ as soon as he can and starts saying "I told you so" and "you deserve it" and "blah blah TRD blah blah"
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Just call Vortech. I'm not real interesed in going back and forth with you.
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Originally Posted by hPower
I find it a bit frustrating when people come here to share their stories and obviously feel terrible and frustrated about what has happend to them and a certain someone on these boards jumps right on their butt as soon as he can and starts saying "I told you so" and "you deserve it" and "blah blah TRD blah blah"

My name is Josh if you all were wondering and I never said I told you so to him. Like I said before I didn't want this to turn into another let blame TRD for what is wrong. If you don't like it then hey it is what it is. Cause I'M TIRED of all you other people coming out and saying that it's all on TRD and the TRD S/C is crap and TRD doesn't blah blah blah when it all just an opinion you have and you're stating it as a fact.

Let try to keep the FACT apart from the OPINONS.
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i don't have a pulley on my car, and i'm getting a leak on my sc. i'm on my second sc. on the last one, had the pulley-this one, don't have it. same mechanic and dealership installed both of the sc's, so it might be that they screwed up something in the install like outcrnru stated. either way, it's annoying the crap outta me. on top of that, neither time did the guy install the tamper proof cap on my sc. i contacted trd about it, and they basically said that it was too bad, but they couldn't and wouldn't do anything.
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Originally Posted by yellot00tr
i don't have a pulley on my car, and i'm getting a leak on my sc. i'm on my second sc. on the last one, had the pulley-this one, don't have it. same mechanic and dealership installed both of the sc's, so it might be that they screwed up something in the install like outcrnru stated. either way, it's annoying the crap outta me. on top of that, neither time did the guy install the tamper proof cap on my sc. i contacted trd about it, and they basically said that it was too bad, but they couldn't and wouldn't do anything.
You have a serious issue with your dealership then. Every S/C comes with a tamper proof cap and if the Tech neglected to install it them they are liable. Thats just BS right there. I take it that you pointed that out to your dealer so if ther is an issue you'll be covered. That's something I would make a big issue of especially if the same tech installed the S/C and you have the same issue.
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Originally Posted by bLaNc0
well whats important is that we get the facts straight, so by a show of hands, who loves me
I do. lol
Old Jun 16, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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josh i got my car running and guest what my local parts store we deal with matched up a woodruff key and the seal inside so know im up and running i also stocked up on extra parts... i reassembled everything and use the factory toyota FIPG sealant and red locktite hopefully it holds.



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