well if that last comment was for me, i'd just like to thank u for your "positive" input, and it was extremely "helpful" and just to let you all know my motor has been ordered and will be in on mon. or tues. so thank you to everyone here who wasn't being so "positive" with my situation, i appretiated ur help.

 

and dude if u really knew anything, u would realize i havent been "boosting" for 36,XXX miles, only had the scer for 4,XXX miles, remember its not a "factory installed" part

 

Yes, it is a Camry engine. It may not have 6 bolt mains like the 2GR-FSE, but it's still a fully deep skirted block with a fully counterweighted forged crank and high strength steel rods straight from the factory. Your comments show a high degree of ignorance about how Toyota builds engines.

 

thank you

 

Good to see you lance

 

oh no! its lance, the 50 year old who trolls the scion forums trying to act like a guru and arguing with anyone who disagrees with him!!! :D

yeah, because well made engines are supposed to blow up at moderate boost levels... :D

sorry, allow me to clarify:

2azfe= good engine
2azfe= not good engine for boost/performance modding

and i guess the fact that i was one of the first ones to bring up that the con rods are probably one of the strongest points of the engine, seeing how is an economy based engine, more stroke, and low end torque (supported by the forged steel rods), good for getting around town, not good for high rpm power and hi boosted revs.

after 4,000 miles of abuse, the engine probably just gave in.

 

50? Not quite. Another fine reason I hardly ever post here. Thanks for reminding me why I don't waste my time with ScionLife. C Ya.

 

heh heh.. sorry sepa, but lance is well known on the forums and has shown more provable knowledge than you have imagined. he has more than proven himself on more serious forums like ystc (which has a much higher percentage of experienced people posting for sure). And if you only knew how far you shoved your foot in your mouth just then you would stop posting now I consider my self pretty well versed in the area of cars and engines, but will gladly take lances advice any day because he has proven to be a great source of info.

And look at the ratio of higher boosted tCs with zero issues and you can see they seem to do fairly well for what they are. They are by no means a sports car engine, but can handle sufficient boost to be a fun car.

 

haha. sorry engi, but i've been around the forums since day 1, and i know that both lance AND you are both full of it. so u can stop the leg-humping now.

just because lance has a BPU supra, and you read books and your dad knows cars doesn't mean u guys know anything about tcs.

you act like the tc has been around and been modded for YEARS, and that the 2azfe is anything but a economy minded grocery getter engine.

you think holding up to boost for 2 years is a great feat??!!!! ROFL....

bottom line: the 2azfe is NOT A PERFORMANCE MOTOR. Sure, some people might get away with abusing it with boost for a little while...but eventually , its going to be the same result for EVERY boosted tc.

and btw, :D every forum has the exact same 5 "experienced" people who just brown nose each other and hump each others legs. oddly enough, none of the supposed Guru's (lo bux, engi) have ANYthing more than BPU's done to their tcs......yet they all TALK like they have been working on tcs for YEARS and years... :D

@ 8 psi (on stock motor) you'll be lucky if you get 3 years (50K miles) out of the car. and more than 8 psi, and you're on borrowed time.

 

Wow.. another mouth apparently who thinks he knows something cause he can insult others intelligence. big suprise on this forum

My dad being a mechanic doesnt make me knowledgable.. my dad teaching me to troubleshoot and repair cars since I was old enough to hold a wrench does. Working in his shop (doing major engine jobs by my early teens) does.. doing all my own work as well as some friends on thier cars does.. I learned little about cars from books (my degrees are in electronics, not automotive), I learned most of what I know from tearing them apart and fixnig them myself. I dont claim to be the guru of anything, but if I do know something about it I will provide that.

you are making assumptions about engine life based on nothing from what you have posted.

And my favorite part is that 5 people, so you say, agree, so it is because of leg humping... not that they could just all be right. I guess all those people that agree the earth is round are also just leg humping huh? And when you can attack my knowledge with your own, other than your assumptions, then I will be willing to listen. Mouthing off and saying I dont know anything is akin to a child arguing since you dont know me from adam, nor do you know anything about my work or what I have done.

I guess you seem to think that since I havent boosted a tc I dont know anything about them.. since apparently in your world the tC follows its own rules and is nothing like any other motor on earth, so different principles apply.

And I dont recall any of us saying the tC is a boost monster.. however, it is not the weak pos you claim it to be either.

Again, childish acting guys like you is what makes this forum hard to come to sometimes. You dont like what someone says so you attack thier intelligence. Take a look in the mirror once in a while and grow up.

Oh, and how many tCs have you boosted (correctly) and blown up in "borrowed time" or "3 years" ? I would hope a lot to make the generalizations you just did. Practically NONE of the cars people boost in the aftermarket are performance motors these days. That doesnt mean you cant build them correctly and have some fun with them without blowing them up in no time.

 

And by the way sepa... with your "ghe" build thread and all the knowledge you showed there along with the fact that you were clueless about what your clutch chatter symptoms could mean and had to trust the dealers word.... dont go preaching you knowlegde to me I should have remembered those threads sooner before wasting my time even talking to you. This was a waste of time

To the rest, hope you get your engines fixed. I still feel that some of these are bad apples, since a few of the same issues popped up a long time ago with bone stock tC's. Others are most likely attributed to the mods and how they were driven. Later

 

It has... the tC has been around since 04... its now 07.

im not saying from the factory it is, but with some work, it 100% can be. take a look at horizon motorosports tC running a 2AZ motor... then come back and talk about performance with a 2az. Oh.. and when you look... also take note that all that power is being made WITHOUT forced induction.

 

You cant mess up Toyotas, especially twice. It's gotta be user error.

 

I sure hope thats true

 

you can mess up anything. The trick to modding is to learn learn learn and then do, so you know what you are doing, even if a shop is your installer. Also, keep the boost levels at a workable level. 8psi or lower and you can have great results with a good tune and good parts as many have shown. Above that and you are pushing things a bit unless you want to build the bottom end. The people who cut corners and just slap on a kit end up with issues down the road because of a bad build. If you want to push monster numbers on an econo engine, you need to build it, as always power costs money. Building and driving the crap out of a car will always lower reliability to a degree, especially on a non-sports car to begin with.

Personally, if I did boost the tC (still not too sure I will, since I really dont see the need on an autox course in a fwd, which is what I like to do with mine), it would be a low amount of boost. Trying to push big numbers in a fwd makes for an impractical daily driver.

 

^ True, Thats why i run 7 PSI Daily, and keep the 14 PSI for the track ( with some 110 Fuel )

I think 7 PSI is a decent amount of power for the tC, and some feel they HAVE to push the car to the limit. I love boost, But i dont see myself seeing it alot anymore. I havnt seen boost in 3 weeks.

I feel the tC motor is a good start to play with, and learn on ( and is far from a " REAL " performance machine ) , But 7 PSI and a proper tune can get you many days of fun.

 

 

Exactly why I LOVE SL. Bro, sorry to hear about the engine, glad to hear they're replacing it for you. Also, SePaTc, quit being a dick.

 

:D sorry if speaking my mind and telling the truth = being a dick. :D lmao....

dont get so buttsore about someone telling the truth about the tc. i didnt' say it was a kia.... just certainly not designed to withstand the abuse that some of these kids are laying on it.

Breakaway- of course the horizon motorsports team gets nice performance from their engine...its a built motor!!!! u know how much money is in that motor?? built motors are much more reliable than boosted motors, and less stressful on the internals in most cases as well.

:D engi, you're ALL talk. .................. and book and google smarts.

 

i know alot about that car. i have talked to leslie and her team a ton of times. so i feel my knowledge of that car is pretty good. im just stating a fact that you CAN get power out of the 2AZ, boosted or NA.