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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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Background on the car: 2007 TC Dezod stage 1 w/ 700CC injectors and AEM F/IC (untuned - only base map at the moment)

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My car keeps giving me the "Charging system warning light" and "Low engine oil pressure warning light." Here is the thing, it only does it when i come to stops if the car is idled up it never does it.... at first it only happened a couple times and in reverse...so i thought it was just a fluke I just shut it off, let it sit for a while, then she's start right back up and no problems...now it happens randomly...stop signs...red lights...

Today, I hit a little bit of boost through 1st and 2nd and when I got off the throttle it died completely....giving me the "Charging system warning light" and "Low engine oil pressure warning light." I tried to start it back up and she was NOT having it..wouldn't start....finally i DID get it started and it idled like C R A P! So, I reset the ECU and all (by unplugging the neg battery wire) and it started back up...it idled rough for a second (like it always would if you reset ECU) and it idled OK but when I give it a little it of gas, the RPM's drop to like...300 and SOMETIMES it catches itself or sometimes it just dies...
Also, there are NO oil leaks of any kind...

Any help guys?? I'm supposed to get tuned Friday but I'm afraid to even drive it to the tuner now...
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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By the way, don't say ask Paul...even he says he's never heard of this...
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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i would have to geuss that its due to running such large 700cc injectors without being tuned.
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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That would cause....THAT crap to happen? I mean What do the large injectors have to do with the car throwing the "Charging system warning light" and "Low engine oil pressure warning light"?
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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i dont know whats up with your warning lights? but the car going fat and falling on its face could be from the injectors. get an oil psi gauge.
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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Why would it only give the warning lights when it is at idling RPM's tho? It only gives the warning lights when I let off the gas and TRY to let it Idle...it's like 1200RPM'S and under the lights will come on and just shuts off..for safety reasons I'm assuming...
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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arent these warning lights the ones that come on in every tc when it stalls?
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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Couldn't tell you...mine has never stalled until now...
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:45 PM
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If ALLL those problems are REALLY due to my larger injectors how the hell would I go about getting a good base map for it? My tuner is not exactly down the road...
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bruceg
If ALLL those problems are REALLY due to my larger injectors how the hell would I go about getting a good base map for it? My tuner is not exactly down the road...
i would say reinstall the stock injectors, unplug the f/ic, make sure you keep out of boost, and drive there.

...btw. you're making yourself sound really snotty for someone thats asking for help.
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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Eh...ok. I was just saying that where I have to go to get tuned is about a 1.5 hour drive. And I'm just aggravated with all this crap right now.
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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yeah it should be the injectors, its big and it prolly needs you to give more air and fuel at idle than idle a stock injectors.. so when you let go off throttle you stall coz you dont have enough air/fuel.. i dont know man its just my guess.. but is your basemap set at 700 cc injectors?
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 11:52 PM
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The warning lights are truly a mystery, the running fat and nearly stalling could be from the injectors and not being tuned as Brett mentioned.
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace83
yeah it should be the injectors, its big and it prolly needs you to give more air and fuel at idle than idle a stock injectors.. so when you let go off throttle you stall coz you dont have enough air/fuel.. i dont know man its just my guess.. but is your basemap set at 700 cc injectors?
I haven't messed witht he base map at all, I have the AEM program and all that installed...how do I set it for 700CC injectors?
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Originally Posted by bruceg
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yeah it should be the injectors, its big and it prolly needs you to give more air and fuel at idle than idle a stock injectors.. so when you let go off throttle you stall coz you dont have enough air/fuel.. i dont know man its just my guess.. but is your basemap set at 700 cc injectors?
I haven't messed witht he base map at all, I have the AEM program and all that installed...how do I set it for 700CC injectors?
I will email you a corrected map tomorrow
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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im not sure how AEM FIC map/software looks like but in my emanage it has a tab where you set it to your injector size.. was it a basemap for the s1 kits w/ 550 injectors?
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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I'm assuming. I got it from Paul, there kit comes with 550CC so yeah, I'm guessing that's what it's for.
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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I found something that sasy injector response time...would that be it?..whatever it is is set to 486 right now and it's measured in: uS so it looks like this: Injector response time: 486 uS. and where it says 486 you can input whatever you want.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 12:56 AM
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