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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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oh might be the old version.. i think turbonetics was offering water cooled upgrades, this might be the old turbo that easily goes bad
Old Dec 26, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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it is the old style turbo....lol
Old Dec 26, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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as far as welding goes iv been welding up catch cans, exhaust, ect....buuuutttt its all been on kyle's car...lol
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 12:52 PM
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just a few pics of kyle's car....see how many things you can spot that iv done to his engine bay...lmao (clue* there are 4 personal touches iv made to his car (no homo)

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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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I thought the catch can was suppose to routed to intake..

Yet you have intake routed to valve cover.. essentially making the catch can worthless?
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 01:11 PM
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one of the lines goes to the intake mani, another one goes to the VC, the third we didnt use and just pluged it up for the moment.
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by crush02342002
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You may be reliving the crank case of pressure, But your still allowing the intake to suck air/oil from valve cover..
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by crush02342002
one of the lines goes to the intake mani, another one goes to the VC, the third we didnt use and just pluged it up for the moment.
ok chris start talking.... the pcv on back of valve cover is connected to a catch can and then ran to intake mani, and the part on can that connects to other breather on valve cover is plugged.


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You may be reliving the crank case of pressure, But your still allowing the intake to suck air/oil from valve cover..


well if he ran the other breather on the valve cover to his catch can he would be seeing boost into the crankcase because his catchcan is routed to intake mani...... which isnt toop bright because then when in boost theres nothing sucking out the pressure in the crankcase, and thats where his valvecover to intake pipe comes to play but your right still allows oil in intake
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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the way i have mine setup is the pcv valve is venting to atmosphere i plugged the manifold and i ran the valv3e cover breather straight into the intake...


why?

1.i dont care bout blowby i rather that than have pressure in crank case..

2.i plugged the manifold because i was afraind that in boost the pcv might leak and let boost into crankcase
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cburglb34
ok chris start talking.... the pcv on back of valve cover is connected to a catch can and then ran to intake mani, and the part on can that connects to other breather on valve cover is plugged.






well if he ran the other breather on the valve cover to his catch can he would be seeing boost into the crankcase because his catchcan is routed to intake mani...... which isnt toop bright because then when in boost theres nothing sucking out the pressure in the crankcase, and thats where his valvecover to intake pipe comes to play but your right still allows oil in intake


Way ive seen catch cans..


Either extra welded or drilled and tap ports on valve cover.

These goto catch can which filter oil out and reilve pressure.. Intake source now sucks air from here and puts it back into the intake now making sure no oil is being pumped into intake/turbo/intercooler.
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ElevationTC
Way ive seen catch cans..


Either extra welded or drilled and tap ports on valve cover.

These goto catch can which filter oil out and reilve pressure.. Intake source now sucks air from here and puts it back into the intake now making sure no oil is being pumped into intake/turbo/intercooler.

lol and thats how it should be
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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From what ive understanded, crush made one hell of an expensive

http://www.gassavers.org/files/gassa..._catchcan4.jpg

Woulda done same thing..

Your not really stopping crank case pressure.. your just filtering it!?
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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Good work Chris....I like it!!!
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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ok guys before you start a really retarded argument on my thread take one look at a stock tc....look at the hose that goes to the pcv and look at what the other end of that line goes to...yep it goes to the intake manifold....forget the fact you see three lines and three tubes cause one of them is not used right this second and may not get used, it was just an idea that sounded good at the moment.

all thats happening here is a catch can is "spliced" inbetween the intake manifold and the valvecover, thats all. its there to catch a little oil and for looks.
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 10:01 PM
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Mike you got the idea, just not as cheesy...lol..pretty much all catch cans are based on that very same idea except for those that are just venting like ace83's. The main point of it is to keep oil from entering the intake stream, doing that will help to keep the valves cleaner longer and stave off excessive carbon buildup in the engine.

however what i really want to do is drill out the pcv thats on the valve cover and place a pcv inbetween the catch can and intake. doing this i hope will keep the pcv cleaner longer. enough oil build up and varnish will gum up the pcv and can make it stick open. your supposed to replace the pcv every so often anyway but this may help keep you from having to do it as often.
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ecko04
Good work Chris....I like it!!!
thanks mang
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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btw both of you have valid points...however cburgle you have to remember what the pcv is...its a one way valve, not a very reliable one but it is what it is. its ment to allow flow out of the vc but not in, for the most part it seals and prevents you from applying pressure to the head (and rest of the engine).

now if you were to totally seal up those two lines off the valve cover youll end up with alot of damn smoke and possible damage. what will happen is pressure from the rotating assymbly will find a way out and if turboed it wil raise oil pressure and yep you guessed it oil will leak past the seals at a rapid rate.
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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congrats to Kyle (aka HIX) for winning second place hottest scion at IFO (Import Face Off) today...GREAT JOB
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by crush02342002
btw both of you have valid points...however cburgle you have to remember what the pcv is...its a one way valve, not a very reliable one but it is what it is. its ment to allow flow out of the vc but not in, for the most part it seals and prevents you from applying pressure to the head (and rest of the engine).

now if you were to totally seal up those two lines off the valve cover youll end up with alot of damn smoke and possible damage. what will happen is pressure from the rotating assymbly will find a way out and if turboed it wil raise oil pressure and yep you guessed it oil will leak past the seals at a rapid rate.
yea i figured urs was for looks and i just dont wanna take my chances with the pcv since there are documented cases of it being well a failure



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