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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 02:01 AM
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Default I want some info on nos for my tc auto.

Hi am looking into getting nos installed into my car and wanted some info before i go buy a kit and end up blowing my engine up, i dont wanna spend more then 1000 on a kit.

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2007 scion tc 3400miles everything stock Auto

1 what brand of nos should i get? they say dont get cheap brands like zex. so what should i get ?

2 can i even run nos on my auto tc? since its auto.

3 any book u recommend i read?

4 anything i should do b4 installing a nos kit into my car? like any upgrades?

5 whats wot? what do people mean when they say u should run the system on wot?

6 anymore info that u think would help would be great just share am all ears.
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when did zex become a cheap brand???

zex is the best kit on the market imo, ive used it on a couple cars now, we've always used the wet kit, comes with everything u need for around 550-600. very easy to install
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1. NOS is a brand.... and Zex is a great company that makes Nitrous kits
2.Yes you can
3. Search google for 1
4.You need an intakes so you can add your jets
5.WOT is Wide Open Throttle. You can setup the Nitrous system to engage at WOT
6.If you want speed save another 1k and get a turbo.
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WOT= Wide Open Throttle
Old Oct 3, 2010 | 02:11 AM
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wot - wide open throttle. the zex wont spray until your throttlebody is completely open.

in other words ur foot has to be all the way down on the gas pedal. i wouldnt recomend going over a 75 shot on an auto
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y nos on auto? save ur money on different upgrades
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Originally Posted by danny1245
Hi am looking into getting nos installed into my car and wanted some info before i go buy a kit and end up blowing my engine up, i dont wanna spend more then 1000 on a kit.

specs

2007 scion tc 3400miles everything stock Auto

1 what brand of nos should i get? they say dont get cheap brands like zex. so what should i get ?

2 can i even run nos on my auto tc? since its auto.

3 any book u recommend i read?

4 anything i should do b4 installing a nos kit into my car? like any upgrades?

5 whats wot? what do people mean when they say u should run the system on wot?

6 anymore info that u think would help would be great just share am all ears.
Well at least one positive thing I can say about your post is that you at least asked before trying to install something like this on a stock tC.
I've been around the custom engine building field for many years, more then I care to admit to. lol... but same advice I always give to novice inquiries of Nitrous use.... don't do it. Just follow this one simple rule. If you install/use nitrous, it's not IF you blow something up, but WHEN. And generally the odds of getting at least yourself killed in the process isn't in your favor, if you enjoy things like living and breathing.
CAN you go and use nitrous? yes you can... would I recommend it? hell no.
Even top trained professionals in this field that do this for a living have that happen from time to time.
I've witnessed nitrous explosions first hand before at the track from people using it. It doesn't just catch on fire, it's like a bomb going off, and the car is the granade at ground zero. And it's NOT easy to put out once it ignites.

I wish places like Hollywood would stop glorifying the use of nitrous in films. The chemical compounds are extremely volatile. Many people die every year as a direct result of it's use.
I have a family and racing background and have been involved in it for many years. I don't go around giving advice on something that I don't know inside and out. I've seen the good and the bad with it... so take it for what it's worth to you.
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good advice Mouse, nitrous is safe if used correctly, and quite beastly with FI, my advice is to turbo first the cost to benefit is higher and safer.
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wth??? lol i say no mods on an auto period, but nitrous blowing up....never seen it happen

ive installed a few juice setups now and seen the meanest setups on domestics where a 300 shot is normal, never once have ive seen any detonation where it physically damaged a car(other than internals) and def no people getting hurt,

i do agree that fast and furious filled these kids with delusional thoughts of flames shooting out the back and ur car going into warp speed because its def not like that at all lol.

but saying that its going to blow up and u will get hurt is just stupid, juice is nothing new and its been around way b4 fast n furious.

imo if u want to mod a car at least start out with a manual, the auto trans will limit u in power, and they're expensive to replace
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i've seen nitrous explode before.. not pretty.. and for our cars, to run it safely, 75 shot is the max i would go..

but no, not on an auto and definitely not when u still havent broken in the car completely yet
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Originally Posted by gwopsta
wth??? lol i say no mods on an auto period, but nitrous blowing up....never seen it happen

ive installed a few juice setups now and seen the meanest setups on domestics where a 300 shot is normal, never once have ive seen any detonation where it physically damaged a car(other than internals) and def no people getting hurt,

i do agree that fast and furious filled these kids with delusional thoughts of flames shooting out the back and ur car going into warp speed because its def not like that at all lol.

but saying that its going to blow up and u will get hurt is just stupid, juice is nothing new and its been around way b4 fast n furious.

imo if u want to mod a car at least start out with a manual, the auto trans will limit u in power, and they're expensive to replace

Like I stated in my previous post. I've been around things like this at a competition level for many years. I'm not saying it happens every single time. But eventually if you roll the dice enough times, your number will come up.
So stating in your post that "but saying that its going to blow up and u will get hurt is just stupid, juice is nothing new and its been around way b4 fast n furious."
Just because you personally haven't seen something happen doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. I've been at the competition level almost longer than you've been alive.
I've seen a couple nitrous explosions at sanctioned events in the past that were so violent that it killed the driver almost instantly.
These were NOT amature events. These were professional teams. That means they do this for a living and have more knowledge and experience with it then most do.
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Originally Posted by Dkfung88
i've seen nitrous explode before.. not pretty.. and for our cars, to run it safely, 75 shot is the max i would go..

but no, not on an auto and definitely not when u still havent broken in the car completely yet
ive seen a bottle explode too on youtube lol, but its def not a guaranteed thing
like that guy tries to make it out 2 be.

theres like 40 people with just hondas that come out to the meet everywknd, and they all have spray. thats not including the domestics who dont run w/out it

we're going to put a 40 shot on my brothers gsxr1000 lol

just sayin u have to have really bad luck or be a complete idiot to "blow up a car" on juice lol
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Like I stated in my previous post. I've been around things like this at a competition level for many years. I'm not saying it happens every single time. But eventually if you roll the dice enough times, your number will come up.
So stating in your post that "but saying that its going to blow up and u will get hurt is just stupid, juice is nothing new and its been around way b4 fast n furious."
Just because you personally haven't seen something happen doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. I've been at the competition level almost longer than you've been alive.
I've seen a couple nitrous explosions at sanctioned events in the past that were so violent that it killed the driver almost instantly.
These were NOT amature events. These were professional teams. That means they do this for a living and have more knowledge and experience with it then most do.
but ur post doesnt really help, you saying nitrous IS guaranteed to going to blow up something is a false statement. there are plenty people that have been running spray 4 years, if it is such a guaranteed fail why do they take still take the risk??

and if ur talking from a professional standpoint thats even worse, because instead of blowing up a little $8k scion, these professional race teams are blowing up race cars worth over $100k-$200K????? get real bro

spray is just fine if used properly, but like any other power adder if go beyond the limitations of ur setup it will eventually fail.

but thinking ur going to hook up a bottle spray it and the bottles going to explode and kill u is silly...........
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Originally Posted by gwopsta
ive seen a bottle explode too on youtube lol, but its def not a guaranteed thing
like that guy tries to make it out 2 be.

theres like 40 people with just hondas that come out to the meet everywknd, and they all have spray. thats not including the domestics who dont run w/out it

we're going to put a 40 shot on my brothers gsxr1000 lol

just sayin u have to have really bad luck or be a complete idiot to "blow up a car" on juice lol
youtube? are u kidding me? what do u take me for? i can guarantee you that his car will blow up with anything more than 100 shot, guaranteed


plus those are hondas, running B16, B18 motors i bet, which can handle a lot more than what a stock tC motor can.
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Originally Posted by gwopsta
but ur post doesnt really help, you saying nitrous IS guaranteed to going to blow up something is a false statement. there are plenty people that have been running spray 4 years, if it is such a guaranteed fail why do they take still take the risk??

and if ur talking from a professional standpoint thats even worse, because instead of blowing up a little $8k scion, these professional race teams are blowing up race cars worth over $100k-$200K????? get real bro

spray is just fine if used properly, but like any other power adder if go beyond the limitations of ur setup it will eventually fail.

but thinking ur going to hook up a bottle spray it and the bottles going to explode and kill u is silly...........
If you actually read what I stated before, I didn't state that there was a specific number of times that everyone that uses nitrous will have before something goes wrong. But, eventually it will happen. Nitrous is a very volatile compound that's just a fact, it's not MY fact. it just is one.

When things are pushed to the limit for performance, sometimes unforseen things do go wrong, even for professional race teams. The point I'm trying to make without getting into a "he said, he said" back and forth, is for novice users to nitrous, that they really need to know the facts before they go and do it. That it is nowhere near a safe thing to be doing without really knowing what they are getting into. Those that are new to that application are the ones that are even more likely to get themselves hurt doing it.
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Originally Posted by Dkfung88
youtube? are u kidding me? what do u take me for? i can guarantee you that his car will blow up with anything more than 100 shot, guaranteed


plus those are hondas, running B16, B18 motors i bet, which can handle a lot more than what a stock tC motor can.


i said 75shot u idiot lol, b16 b18 handle ALOT more than what a stock tc can??????? lol

UR A F*(&^%$ DUMBA$$ HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

yes they do have a slightly higher comp ratio which is a + but stock for stock i would put my money on a tc motor any day given the proper tune,

damn u mods are stupid
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Originally Posted by boostin999
i said 75shot u idiot lol, b16 b18 handle ALOT more than what a stock tc can??????? lol

UR A F*(&^%$ DUMBA$$ HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

yes they do have a slightly higher comp ratio which is a + but stock for stock i would put my money on a tc motor any day given the proper tune,

damn u mods are stupid
so ur telling me a camry motor can handle more than a B18 motor? do some research before pulling words out of ur ___. i have built B18 motors which can easily reach 500 whp whereas a tC wont be able to pull off 350 safely on stock internals. dont be talking if u got nothing to back urself up kid
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Originally Posted by Dkfung88
so ur telling me a camry motor can handle more than a B18 motor? do some research before pulling words out of ur ___. i have built B18 motors which can easily reach 500 whp whereas a tC wont be able to pull off 350 safely on stock internals. dont be talking if u got nothing to back urself up kid
u mean a 700whp b18 like this idiot???....and nope this aint no google pic lol
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dont give me that camry vs b18, yea u mite make 500whp and mabe 250wtq lol

when a tc makes hp the tq is rite there with it, so ur comparison is stupid because stock b18 rods cant handle 500wtq dummy.

and yes everybody has built a 10 sec car hahaha prove it
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see the little purple box to the right of the pic, and the steel braided line with the little purple jets attached....yea thats part of a zex kit, ive been doing this for a while idiot lol
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i got tired of reading whatever the people said anyway here are my answers....

Zex is a good brand, a better one is Nitrous Express a little more expensive but not by much.

You can run nitrous on your car even if it is an auto. I do not advise using it on a dig until you build up your internals a bit. A third gear Wide Open Throttle (WOT) shot is just fine.

It's hard to find a good article on imports or 4 cylinder cars using nitrous, you can read a muscle car magazine and it will have the same principles.

As far as upgrades a tune will be just fine, even that isn't mandatory. an intake and exhaust would be good.

WOT means Wide Open Throttle. they say that because the fuel injectors are open, tons of air is coming in, if you hit that button you have less chance of killing your motor and transmission. if you are on a overdrive gear and decide to hit that button you will burn up the clutches, break springs, accumulators. with the motor you can run lean and grenade your motor. Wide open Throttle in Third gear.

50 shot for a daily driver 75 shot for the track. when you first install it bleed the system of air bubbles so if you have a nitrous purge system hit that a few times with the fuel turn the key but dont turn it on, let the fuel line pressurize hit the button. wait a minute then turn it on. warm up the car and take it out on the highway.

any other questions just pm me.
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Originally Posted by gwopsta
u mean a 700whp b18 like this idiot???....and nope this aint no google pic lol

dont give me that camry vs b18, yea u mite make 500whp and mabe 250wtq lol

when a tc makes hp the tq is rite there with it, so ur comparison is stupid because stock b18 rods cant handle 500wtq dummy.

and yes everybody has built a 10 sec car hahaha prove it
see the little purple box to the right of the pic, and the steel braided line with the little purple jets attached....yea thats part of a zex kit, ive been doing this for a while idiot lol
it can handle one hell of a lot more than a tC can



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