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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 10:58 PM
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I currently have Dezod intercooler pipes (2.25inch), intake (2.5inch) and Intercooler.

I wanted to upgrade to aluminum pipes to 2.5inch all around and the intake pipe 3inch along with a bigger better flowing intercooler (i dont know which intercooler im being offered.)

It is going to be custom made plus its going to include all materials including couplers, ect.

Between parts and labor it is going to run me $1300 installed.


Is this a good price or what is your opinion ?
Old Nov 26, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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wow
thats seems like a lot of money
but thats just me
Old Nov 26, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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What are you trying to achieve by changing to larger intercooler and intake piping?

I have more questions, but I will start there.

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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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PM me Kumitsu. I gotcha!!!

There you go !!!

But still post your reasons if you don't mind as I am sure a few others might want to know, besides myself. Plus there are a few things I would like to elaborate on.

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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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Bigger pipes will slow the velocity of the air... You won't gain anything by just increasing pipe size alone.
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 01:30 AM
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Paul just make sure you sell him a good core...I got away from the ones we were both using for a reason ;);)

Bigger pipes will slow the velocity of the air... You won't gain anything by just increasing pipe size alone.

One of the main reasons why I was asking what his goals were.

Most likely all he needs is a more efficient core and he would be set. Bigger is not always better. But I am just assuming......won't really know until he elaborates on his motives.

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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboToyotas
What are you trying to achieve by changing to larger intercooler and intake piping?

I have more questions, but I will start there.

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I just wanted to change to a bigger better flowing intercooler & pipes to achieve better cooling ?

or so i was told by many people, honestly i dont know since ive never experienced smaller or bigger intercooler and pipes.

I was told by a mechanic that if for example, your turbo flows at 1000cfm, you should get a intercooler that flows more than the turbo for example, 1500cfm.

I am not verry experienced with intercoolers and their differences.

I almost forgot to mentioned im running a GT3076R, dont know if this matters.

any help would be appreciated.
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Let me know on what you switch to Kumitsu, I am also looking to upgrade
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mightygnu
Let me know on what you switch to Kumitsu, I am also looking to upgrade
will let ya know, as soon as i get some help from the experts!
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Kumitsu
Originally Posted by Mightygnu
Let me know on what you switch to Kumitsu, I am also looking to upgrade
will let ya know, as soon as i get some expert help here !
Between Paul and Todd, I don't think you can get any more expert.
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mightygnu
Originally Posted by Kumitsu
Originally Posted by Mightygnu
Let me know on what you switch to Kumitsu, I am also looking to upgrade
will let ya know, as soon as i get some expert help here !
Between Paul and Todd, I don't think you can get any more expert.

true dat ! , but i still havent gotten a response from them.
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kumitsu
Originally Posted by Mightygnu
Originally Posted by Kumitsu
Originally Posted by Mightygnu
Let me know on what you switch to Kumitsu, I am also looking to upgrade
will let ya know, as soon as i get some expert help here !
Between Paul and Todd, I don't think you can get any more expert.

true dat ! , but i still havent gotten a response from them.
Go call Paul! I know he is sitting next to his phone.
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mightygnu
Originally Posted by Kumitsu
Originally Posted by Mightygnu
Originally Posted by Kumitsu
Originally Posted by Mightygnu
Let me know on what you switch to Kumitsu, I am also looking to upgrade
will let ya know, as soon as i get some expert help here !
Between Paul and Todd, I don't think you can get any more expert.

true dat ! , but i still havent gotten a response from them.
Go call Paul! I know he is sitting next to his phone.
Nahhh, i think i will wait till they both post on here, so that everyone wishing to upgrade can get information as well.
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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I am sure if you called, the information would be posted anyway. Granted I would like this information as well. So Paul! Start posting!
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Between Paul and Todd, I don't think you can get any more expert
I wouldn't consider myself and expert but I know both Paul and myself try and help you guys out as much as we can.

Just my .o2 worth...

Leave your piping the way it is, no need for that expense..save it for another part of your build.

I would however look into a larger more efficient core.... As I do not know exactly all the stuff Paul at Dezod offers I can't say go get this or that.

I can however tell you to stay away from the typical styles(no matter what the size) of intercoolers you commonly see.

I now use only Garret cores, if you want I can offer you a core with custom tanks that will work ideally for your situation.

But you always have options.

Good luck!

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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboToyotas
Between Paul and Todd, I don't think you can get any more expert
I wouldn't consider myself and expert but I know both Paul and myself try and help you guys out as much as we can.

Just my .o2 worth...

Leave your piping the way it is, no need for that expense..save it for another part of your build.

I would however look into a larger more efficient core.... As I do not know exactly all the stuff Paul at Dezod offers I can't say go get this or that.

I can however tell you to stay away from the typical styles(no matter what the size) of intercoolers you commonly see.

I now use only Garret cores, if you want I can offer you a core with custom tanks that will work ideally for your situation.

But you always have options.

Good luck!

Regards-

Todd

So i wont benefit from upgradng intercooler pipes to bigger sizes, but i will benefit from a better intercooler core ?
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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So i wont benefit from upgradng intercooler pipes to bigger sizes, but i will benefit from a better intercooler core ?
Correct

You are a long way from maxing out the flow(volume)of your current size intercooler piping. 95% of the turbo kits that are out there available for the TC's, including my old versions could all benefit from a more efficent intercooler

I picked up quite a bit of power on a same kit(apples to apples) just by switching from the typical ic's you see to a Garrett core. Well worth the little bit of added expense.

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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboToyotas
So i wont benefit from upgradng intercooler pipes to bigger sizes, but i will benefit from a better intercooler core ?
Correct

You are a long way from maxing out the flow(volume)of your current size intercooler piping. 95% of the turbo kits that are out there available for the TC's, including my old versions could all benefit from a more efficent intercooler

I picked up quite a bit of power on a same kit(apples to apples) just by switching from the typical ic's you see to a Garrett core. Well worth the little bit of added expense.

Regards-

Todd

Kool, How will i know which intercooler is better flowing, since most of the information posted on the sites is just how much HP it can take.
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Kool, How will i know which intercooler is better flowing, since most of the information posted on the sites is just how much HP it can take.
Most of the better cores have higher cfm ratings than the typical ic's you see. Actually most of the IC's you see aren't even tested, they are just copies that use the same specs.

+ the better cores use a higher grade aluminum and don't suffer from the heat soak issues as fast as the typical versions.

Garrett makes a great core

PWR makes a good core

Spearco makes a good core

All would need to have custom tanks made.

aI would stay away from already made "cheap" versions, they will only hurt you in the long run. A lesson I have already learned

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