Looking for feedback from long-term supercharger users
Originally Posted by Chaos_Being
BuddhasTC, since you had problems with yours, I guess the same question goes for you, since I see that you were running a higher boost pulley. Also, what bearings had you upgraded to which were the ones that failed after 10 months, and which ones are did you install this time? Did you have your first failure on stock bearings, with the upgraded boost pulley?
Had my blower on since October 21, 2005(one of the first on the East coast I believe) and I haven't had any problems in over 30,000 miles other than the s/c bracket which was replaced under warranty.
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Originally Posted by BuddhasTC
The problems came with the bearings in the shaft only. After i had purchased this kit ( i was the third owner), it already had just the bearings in the housing replaced and the shaft was still stock. Now this s/c was used at the track by both of the previous owners and eventually, as would probably any with that kinda use, it gave out. I was fortunate enough to have the original owner come out and replace them for me after i first bought the kit and he had said that they were a higher speed rating and ceramic, and it turned out it needed a higher speed rating according to my mechanic who is installing the new ones in the shaft before i sell it. I'm sure the pulley played a part in the bearings going out quicker, but mainly i think it was the use/stress put on it from some track time.
Ah ok that makes sense, thanks for the info!
Can you still use regular unleaded gas when going supercharged and how much of a gain would you get with a auto? I havnt seen a decent video online with someone flooring it with just only a supercharger from 0 - 60.
A supercharger will add more heat into the engine and the higher octane will help control the heat so your engine does not detonate. Detonation or "knocking" is caused by heat or lack of fuel and it can distroy your engine if left untreated.
Detonation sometimes is silent, so even though you do not hear any knocking sounds, your engine still might be detonationing. This detonation will burn a hole in your pistons or even cause your rings inside of the engine to fail.
http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?ID=105
http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?ID=104
there's a couple of links to help you learn
Detonation sometimes is silent, so even though you do not hear any knocking sounds, your engine still might be detonationing. This detonation will burn a hole in your pistons or even cause your rings inside of the engine to fail.
http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?ID=105
http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?ID=104
there's a couple of links to help you learn
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Yup you're definitely going to want to run higher octane fuel with any F/I car.
I'm of two minds on the S/C- it sounds like it would be a lot of fun, and would fulfill my want for a faster, boosted car without actually trading in my car, which isn't really an option. It still seems (so far) that most people are not having any problems, but for those who do, the problems tend to be really, really bad. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious?
I'm of two minds on the S/C- it sounds like it would be a lot of fun, and would fulfill my want for a faster, boosted car without actually trading in my car, which isn't really an option. It still seems (so far) that most people are not having any problems, but for those who do, the problems tend to be really, really bad. Maybe I'm just being overly cautious?
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Well I realized that most of the people who have posted good things have 2005 or 2006 tC's, so that is definitely good news for me
Lets hear from some more supercharged people!
If you want to go s/c do it..but just don't go around and upgrading everything. Just upgrade to 110 valve, K&N filter and take out that trap thing inside the air box. you will be fine with those upgrades. If you want to upgrade the pulley you are your own. Some people have had problems and some haven't, but that's how it goes for everything.
i am thinking of s/cing my auto 07 and wanted to know what knda power gains i would be looking at. does it make enough power difference to even tell or be worth the money?
i am either gonna turbo or s/c. i am not a speed junky but would like some extra power. with the supercharger would i need headers or to upgrade to a catback exhaust rather than the axleback that i have?
i am either gonna turbo or s/c. i am not a speed junky but would like some extra power. with the supercharger would i need headers or to upgrade to a catback exhaust rather than the axleback that i have?
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Originally Posted by 1_kLEan_tC
If you want to go s/c do it..but just don't go around and upgrading everything. Just upgrade to 110 valve, K&N filter and take out that trap thing inside the air box. you will be fine with those upgrades. If you want to upgrade the pulley you are your own. Some people have had problems and some haven't, but that's how it goes for everything.
Originally Posted by Elijahtc
i am thinking of s/cing my auto 07 and wanted to know what knda power gains i would be looking at. does it make enough power difference to even tell or be worth the money?
i am either gonna turbo or s/c. i am not a speed junky but would like some extra power. with the supercharger would i need headers or to upgrade to a catback exhaust rather than the axleback that i have?
i am either gonna turbo or s/c. i am not a speed junky but would like some extra power. with the supercharger would i need headers or to upgrade to a catback exhaust rather than the axleback that i have?
I'd avoid the headers if you want to keep the warranty, they'll void it for using headers. As for the exhaust, I'd definitely upgrade to a cat-back, as from what I read the supercharger really benefits from a free-flowing exhaust. Heck, I wouldn't mind upgrading from my Skunk2 to Ptuning's 3 inch exhaust, from their dyno's that would be good for another 10hp for a supercharged setup. That exhaust is expensive though...
i've been boosted for about 6 months and i put something like 7k on the car. I have catback and 9.5psi pulley and aftermarket bov. I hit redline many times daily and haven't had any problems. Although i do have to add a quart of oil every few weeks.
I've had the s/c for about a year and a half and about 30k miles. It started leaking oil earlier this year from the shaft. I had the seal replaced and it was running great. About a month ago it happened again. I had it replaced again, and now a month later I have the same problem. Don't know what to do now, the s/c has been a real headache as of late.
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I had mine for 2 1/2 months now but brought mine USED(3000 miles) so far so good. i really think it depends on the installer, mine made sure that everything was done rite, he even contacts me to make sure its running fine. he previously S/Ced 3 others so look for experience, if its a first or second timer i would not recommend doing it. and also yes gas will be a pain in the @$$ my only downside. and be sure to break it in (dont push it for like 500 or so miles).
Originally Posted by airswipes
so you wanna add a supercharger for more umph in daily driving? you wanna spend more money on gas and have to even upgrade to 91 just for more umph on daily driving? i say save that money you have for a year's supply of gas...err well with prices.. 3 months worth???. =)
Ive been supercharged now for about 3k miles.
I bought it used with around 8k miles
I Installed it with the NST 9.5 pully, CAI, Aem Boost, Aem Uego. Fordge 007 bpv. Wrapped headers
Runs Perfect. 11.6 AFR at wot
I check my oil everytime i fill up and every morning before driving.. I have not lost ANY oil.
I have no oil leaks..
No bearing failure as of yet!
With the mods i have its ALOT Faster, Pulls alot harder, And deff wastes more gas!
I DO not run mobile syntetic. I run there clean 5000 oil and have never had any engine problems!
If u could do it again, I would!
And just for some honda love, Best friend has a 08 si.. from a 40 roll to 100. i get about 8 car lengths!
Thats all , Kthnx BYE
I bought it used with around 8k miles
I Installed it with the NST 9.5 pully, CAI, Aem Boost, Aem Uego. Fordge 007 bpv. Wrapped headers
Runs Perfect. 11.6 AFR at wot
I check my oil everytime i fill up and every morning before driving.. I have not lost ANY oil.
I have no oil leaks..
No bearing failure as of yet!
With the mods i have its ALOT Faster, Pulls alot harder, And deff wastes more gas!
I DO not run mobile syntetic. I run there clean 5000 oil and have never had any engine problems!
If u could do it again, I would!
And just for some honda love, Best friend has a 08 si.. from a 40 roll to 100. i get about 8 car lengths!
Thats all , Kthnx BYE
5500 miles now, installed at 20000 on my 2006 tC. No issues, runs VERY strong, I beat the heck out of it all the time (ALL the time) and shes taking it well. I run RedLine 10w30 synthetic oul.
I have a 2006 scion TC with 21500 miles, almost 10000 (9831) mi. of which are on my all stock (as it came out of box) S/C. I have only had one problem. The air box (stock part) clamp keeps popping open. I had the air box replaced under warranty and the new box is even worse then the 1st.
I love the extra power. I am getting 19 - 22 mi/gal. which hurts a bit now but such is life. I run only high octane gas, check the oil at every fill up (and put the stupid clamp back on.) I want to go to a fresh air/cold air/forced air(?) intake set up as soon as the drive train warranty has run out (I'm very paranoid about voiding the warranty). This will solve the air box clamp problem and hopefully add some power too. Please give suggestions on this air box idea if you have experience in this area. (pictures would be nice too.) I have also added the TRD muffler ("Cat back" I think you would say.) I am thinking about a adding an bpv as I hear people saying the provided one sucks (How/Why?.) I'm not totally up on this car stuff but love to drive my TC Fast (okay faster'ish) and am learning tons from this forum. Keep it coming and thank you!
I love the extra power. I am getting 19 - 22 mi/gal. which hurts a bit now but such is life. I run only high octane gas, check the oil at every fill up (and put the stupid clamp back on.) I want to go to a fresh air/cold air/forced air(?) intake set up as soon as the drive train warranty has run out (I'm very paranoid about voiding the warranty). This will solve the air box clamp problem and hopefully add some power too. Please give suggestions on this air box idea if you have experience in this area. (pictures would be nice too.) I have also added the TRD muffler ("Cat back" I think you would say.) I am thinking about a adding an bpv as I hear people saying the provided one sucks (How/Why?.) I'm not totally up on this car stuff but love to drive my TC Fast (okay faster'ish) and am learning tons from this forum. Keep it coming and thank you!
Originally Posted by jedred1
I have a 2006 scion TC with 21500 miles, almost 10000 (9831) mi. of which are on my all stock (as it came out of box) S/C. I have only had one problem. The air box (stock part) clamp keeps popping open. I had the air box replaced under warranty and the new box is even worse then the 1st.
I love the extra power. I am getting 19 - 22 mi/gal. which hurts a bit now but such is life. I run only high octane gas, check the oil at every fill up (and put the stupid clamp back on.) I want to go to a fresh air/cold air/forced air(?) intake set up as soon as the drive train warranty has run out (I'm very paranoid about voiding the warranty). This will solve the air box clamp problem and hopefully add some power too. Please give suggestions on this air box idea if you have experience in this area. (pictures would be nice too.) I have also added the TRD muffler ("Cat back" I think you would say.) I am thinking about a adding an bpv as I hear people saying the provided one sucks (How/Why?.) I'm not totally up on this car stuff but love to drive my TC Fast (okay faster'ish) and am learning tons from this forum. Keep it coming and thank you!
I love the extra power. I am getting 19 - 22 mi/gal. which hurts a bit now but such is life. I run only high octane gas, check the oil at every fill up (and put the stupid clamp back on.) I want to go to a fresh air/cold air/forced air(?) intake set up as soon as the drive train warranty has run out (I'm very paranoid about voiding the warranty). This will solve the air box clamp problem and hopefully add some power too. Please give suggestions on this air box idea if you have experience in this area. (pictures would be nice too.) I have also added the TRD muffler ("Cat back" I think you would say.) I am thinking about a adding an bpv as I hear people saying the provided one sucks (How/Why?.) I'm not totally up on this car stuff but love to drive my TC Fast (okay faster'ish) and am learning tons from this forum. Keep it coming and thank you!
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Thanks for the replies...I thought this thread was dead
After some thinking, I have decided to focus on paying off the car before I do anything "big" like F/I to my car. To me anyways, it doesn't make much sense to add a mod as expensive as the S/C, when I'm still making a payment! (the mods I currently have weren't that costly, and I definitely don't regret them.)
I'm still interested in the supercharger, and may install it after the car is 100% paid off. I will see how I feel then, I may also trade up to a car that is faster stock (as much as I like the tC.)
I'm glad to see all the feedback here though, I hope it continues to grow, as I know there are a lot of others out there who have been wondering the same thing that I did.
After some thinking, I have decided to focus on paying off the car before I do anything "big" like F/I to my car. To me anyways, it doesn't make much sense to add a mod as expensive as the S/C, when I'm still making a payment! (the mods I currently have weren't that costly, and I definitely don't regret them.)
I'm still interested in the supercharger, and may install it after the car is 100% paid off. I will see how I feel then, I may also trade up to a car that is faster stock (as much as I like the tC.)
I'm glad to see all the feedback here though, I hope it continues to grow, as I know there are a lot of others out there who have been wondering the same thing that I did.


