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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Default low boost turbo with trd s/c reflash

no one still hasnt tried this?!?
I am very interested in what would happen with a low (6psi boost) turbo with the trd reflash.
ZPI you sell the reflash and are constantly trying new things yet you havnt done this?



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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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bump. anyone?
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ZPI has done this, and they say it works.
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[quote="rhythmnsmoke"]ZPI has done this, and they say it works.[/quote

oh thanks for alllll that information in that post! my needs have been fufilled! grrrr....
can you tell me anymore? or am i just better off calling them tomorrow?
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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[quote="redwar1441"]
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ZPI has done this, and they say it works.[/quote

or am i just better off calling them tomorrow?

TELL HIM WHAT HE WINS JOHNNY!!!

Why would I know anymore than that man, you know I have a Stage 1.
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[quote="rhythmnsmoke"]
Originally Posted by redwar1441
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ZPI has done this, and they say it works.[/quote

or am i just better off calling them tomorrow?

TELL HIM WHAT HE WINS JOHNNY!!!

Why would I know anymore than that man, you know I have a Stage 1.


Actually, one of the shops car ( Black tC ) Is running 8 PSI with the TRD Reflash. Sean Drives it daily, and i had rode in the car once. the car rides fine, but has not so good of an idle. Just call ZPI up tommorow and ask sean what he thinks of it.

* It has the reflash because thats the tC they had with the TRD superchager.
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the trd flash is clearly not a good tune - i know what you are trying to do ...save $$ ....and i respect that. BUT - its not a good idea. I do wish it was a good idea because i would consider throwing a turbo on and taking off the s/c. I dunno what to say but once you ahve the s/c ....adding a turbo to your car pretty much will make you start over because all the parts are a tad off. You will want bigger injectors and an eman ult
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the trd flash is clearly not a good tune - i know what you are trying to do ...save $$ ....and i respect that. BUT - its not a good idea. I do wish it was a good idea because i would consider throwing a turbo on and taking off the s/c. I dunno what to say but once you ahve the s/c ....adding a turbo to your car pretty much will make you start over because all the parts are a tad off. You will want bigger injectors and an eman ult

I would have to disagree with that statement.
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jwaggz82 n im not trying to save money thats not the issue at all. The issue is i love my mother(toyota) and want to use as much of her parts as possible. If its a valid option i will use the reflash over a piggyback. Im not afraid of piggybacks, in fact ive installed many SDS stand alone engine systems and tuned them. I just really like the idea of using whats already there.
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Originally Posted by jwaggz82
the trd flash is clearly not a good tune - i know what you are trying to do ...save $$ ....and i respect that. BUT - its not a good idea. I do wish it was a good idea because i would consider throwing a turbo on and taking off the s/c. I dunno what to say but once you ahve the s/c ....adding a turbo to your car pretty much will make you start over because all the parts are a tad off. You will want bigger injectors and an eman ult
this statement is totally true.

how do you expect a tune for a supercharger to work the SAME way on a turbocharged car? 5 psi on a turbo is TOTALLY different from 5psi from a blower. a blower is gradual and linear, the turbo is more load dependant. Even the TRD flash is ____ anyways.

different injectors, different components and EVERYTHING. not to mention different moments when ignition needs to be pulled/advanced. I dont care if ZPI is able to run, i can ASSURE you that the motor will not last. The tune is the most important part of ANY boosted setup, it one thing you definitely DO NOT want to cheap out on or try to take the easy way around.
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As rs1 mentioned, it just does not seem like a good idea to mix blower ecu with turbo setup, no matter what psi.
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Originally Posted by 05-RS1
Originally Posted by jwaggz82
the trd flash is clearly not a good tune - i know what you are trying to do ...save $$ ....and i respect that. BUT - its not a good idea. I do wish it was a good idea because i would consider throwing a turbo on and taking off the s/c. I dunno what to say but once you ahve the s/c ....adding a turbo to your car pretty much will make you start over because all the parts are a tad off. You will want bigger injectors and an eman ult
this statement is totally true.

how do you expect a tune for a supercharger to work the SAME way on a turbocharged car? 5 psi on a turbo is TOTALLY different from 5psi from a blower. a blower is gradual and linear, the turbo is more load dependant. Even the TRD flash is poop anyways.

different injectors, different components and EVERYTHING. not to mention different moments when ignition needs to be pulled/advanced. I dont care if ZPI is able to run, i can ASSURE you that the motor will not last. The tune is the most important part of ANY boosted setup, it one thing you definitely DO NOT want to cheap out on or try to take the easy way around.


Why are you arguing and trying to disprove something that's already been tested and concluded to work? No one is saying it's better than say a piggy back, it's just another Option no more, no less.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by 05-RS1
Originally Posted by jwaggz82
the trd flash is clearly not a good tune - i know what you are trying to do ...save $$ ....and i respect that. BUT - its not a good idea. I do wish it was a good idea because i would consider throwing a turbo on and taking off the s/c. I dunno what to say but once you ahve the s/c ....adding a turbo to your car pretty much will make you start over because all the parts are a tad off. You will want bigger injectors and an eman ult
this statement is totally true.

how do you expect a tune for a supercharger to work the SAME way on a turbocharged car? 5 psi on a turbo is TOTALLY different from 5psi from a blower. a blower is gradual and linear, the turbo is more load dependant. Even the TRD flash is poop anyways.

different injectors, different components and EVERYTHING. not to mention different moments when ignition needs to be pulled/advanced. I dont care if ZPI is able to run, i can ASSURE you that the motor will not last. The tune is the most important part of ANY boosted setup, it one thing you definitely DO NOT want to cheap out on or try to take the easy way around.


Why are you arguing and trying to disprove something that's already been tested and concluded to work? No one is saying it's better than say a piggy back, it's just another Option no more, no less.
Yeah, travis of all people could say that it runs fine. He sees the car all the time, and has raced it. I have rode in the car. The idle sucks ( so what ) other than that its ok until a piggy back ECU is able to be run.
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Not to mention......the Stock ECU can handle a Stage 0 on 6 PSI.
Old Feb 27, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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is that option best for those who are concerned with reliability and health of the motor? NO. like i said, i dont care if it works, just dont go around telling ppl that it will be 100% fine to do so and its a solid substitute to a real tune.

i'm arguing b/c its a stupid idea to do so.
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The trd flash leans out and then dumps fuel - its surely not a good setup but it "works" for users. Since there are climate differences etc etc etc they had to make it like this. I wish it was tuned better but its not. This year I should have my car tuned and dyno'd. I cant wait to see the results because i never got a dyno done after my header/intake.
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Originally Posted by 03DSM-RSX
is that option best for those who are concerned with reliability and health of the motor? NO. like i said, i dont care if it works, just dont go around telling ppl that it will be 100% fine to do so and its a solid substitute to a real tune.

i'm arguing b/c its a stupid idea to do so.

WHERE did you see me say that? WHERE....please quote me. Infact I said the SAME thing you just did, only in a different way....about 3 post ago....
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
ZPI has done this, and they say it works.

Why are you arguing and trying to disprove something that's already been tested and concluded to work?
these statements imply that its OK to use reflash for the turbocharged setup.

sorry if i went a bit over the top, but you did make the threadstarter feel that its ok to do so. Why not just say, "no, its not way to do so."
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Originally Posted by 03DSM-RSX
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
ZPI has done this, and they say it works.

Why are you arguing and trying to disprove something that's already been tested and concluded to work?
these statements imply that its OK to use reflash for the turbocharged setup.

sorry if i went a bit over the top, but you did make the threadstarter feel that its ok to do so. Why not just say, "no, its not way to do so."

BECAUSE IT WORKS He asked if it worked, simple answer is YES! If he would have asked what would be better, I would have answered that question. But don't see him asking that now do we. I tend to stick to the course and not go off on these tangents like other people. You want more information, he can ask for it.
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Don't do it bro, it's like ordering a 2 egg breakfast, and they use egg-beaters instead of real eggs *blah*

Get the real eggs, get a piggyback.



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