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Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by Menace
One thing I dont understand is how do you eliminate the traction variable on street?
Menace: By Rolling Starts
brett: Not true, you can still be a horrible driver on the street. Mis-shifting, shifting at the wrong points, etc. You can still loose a race even if you have the same setup in the same cars, but you are a worse driver than the other guy.
And no, I'm not stating Street racing has greater skill than at the drag strip...(cause I know someone will try and imply that's what I'm saying)..
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Thanks for proving me right by the way Brett. The MORE you spin the tires the higher your trap speed is going to be. The LESS you spin the tires your trap speed can/possibly decrease.
You pointed that out when you said....
Its just another way of saying the same thing....that
Trap speed decreases when you have more traction....
You pointed that out when you said....
Originally Posted by brett561tc
...you had faster trap speeds than on this run where you had worse traction?
Trap speed decreases when you have more traction....
"then explain why on these runs when you had more traction (i.e better 60')...
...you had faster trap speeds than on this run where you had worse traction?"
im pretty sure i proved you wrong. you had faster traps on the runs where you had MORE traction then on the run where you had LESS traction.
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Trap speed decreases when you have more traction.... ET lowers, but also decreases your mph...
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Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Thanks for proving me right by the way Brett. The MORE you spin the tires the higher your trap speed is going to be. The LESS you spin the tires your trap speed can/possibly decrease.
You pointed that out when you said....
Its just another way of saying the same thing....that
Trap speed decreases when you have more traction....
You pointed that out when you said....
Originally Posted by brett561tc
...you had faster trap speeds than on this run where you had worse traction?
Trap speed decreases when you have more traction....
"then explain why on these runs when you had more traction (i.e better 60')...
...you had faster trap speeds than on this run where you had worse traction?"
im pretty sure i proved you wrong. you had faster traps on the runs where you had MORE traction then on the run where you had LESS traction.
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Trap speed decreases when you have more traction.... ET lowers, but also decreases your mph...
Now your saying it backwards.... 
you had faster trap speeds than on this run where you had worse traction?"
you had faster traps on the runs where you had MORE traction then on the run where you had LESS traction.
Blatant change of the story.
The first statement was correct dude, your second one was just said so you can save face.I'm done, this is stupid. peace.
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alright travis. i think ive had my fill of calling you out for today. im gonna go back to focusing my efforts on my car and driving skill. i suggest you do the same. so lets end it here and let my thread get back on track. i'll give more updates when i go to the track. good luck to you travis. with a little more practice im sure we will both see our goal. peace.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Thanks for proving me right by the way Brett. The MORE you spin the tires the higher your trap speed is going to be. The LESS you spin the tires your trap speed can/possibly decrease.
You pointed that out when you said....
Its just another way of saying the same thing....that
Trap speed decreases when you have more traction....
You pointed that out when you said....
Originally Posted by brett561tc
...you had faster trap speeds than on this run where you had worse traction?
Trap speed decreases when you have more traction....
"then explain why on these runs when you had more traction (i.e better 60')...
...you had faster trap speeds than on this run where you had worse traction?"
im pretty sure i proved you wrong. you had faster traps on the runs where you had MORE traction then on the run where you had LESS traction.
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Trap speed decreases when you have more traction.... ET lowers, but also decreases your mph...
Now your saying it backwards....
you had faster trap speeds than on this run where you had worse traction?"
you had faster traps on the runs where you had MORE traction then on the run where you had LESS traction.
Blatant change of the story.
The first statement was correct dude, your second one was just said so you can save face.I'm done, this is stupid. peace.
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Originally Posted by brett561tc
alright travis. i think ive had my fill of calling you out for today. im gonna go back to focusing my efforts on my car and driving skill. i suggest you do the same. so lets end it here and let my thread get back on track. i'll give more updates when i go to the track. good luck to you travis. with a little more practice im sure we will both see our goal. peace.
Like wise. Peace.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Excuses....Are you freakin Serious? I just said that I run what I brung, and only explained the conditions I was racing under. That's what I had available to me at the time.
Difference between you and me, and what YOU made up as an excuse is my conditions were already in place BEFORE the race. They did not develop AFTER the race to explain WHY I didn't run ideal times.
You didn't run your ideal times so, you made excuses afterwards. I didn't know what I was going to run especially with the car un-tuned and some tires that I didn't find worthy. Factory Scion tires would have been my other option, but I went with the used tires instead.
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Originally Posted by brett561tc
everything is better. lets start with the obvious performance. even with a worse launch, and me letting off at the end. i was able to run the same time as the zpi kit. if you look at the dyno, you will see that the car was well on its way to 400whp, by the 6400rpm redline, and will make even more once i raise the revlimter. the zpi kit stoped making power at around 5700rpms. quality wise the differance is also night and day. peakboost uses t-bolt clamps. zpi does not. all the ic piping is bead rolled. zpi's is not. peakboost uses a steel braided line for the oil return. zpi used a leak prone rubber one. peakboost uses brand new garrett turbos, zpi used chineese made or re-maufactured 16g's. the hpc coating that i got with the peakboost kit looks as good as the day i got it. the coating on the zpi kit started flaking off after a month. my peakboost kit came with an authentic tial wastegate. the zpi kit came with some brand-x called turbo concepts or something. peakboost came with a k&n air filter. zpi used some other cheap off brand. finaly i'll end with price. my peakboost kit ran me about $600-$800 less than the zpi kit. it also shipped in 7weeks, compared to the 6 months it took for my zpi kit. basicly the peakboost kit was designed for performence. where as the zpi stage 1 was designed to give kenny the highest turnaround possible.
p.s. the peakboost kit looks about 1,000 times better.
p.s. the peakboost kit looks about 1,000 times better.
im really glad i decided to go with the TT over any other kit on the market.
seems like itll last a long time and be safe with few problems.
good luck with your future runs.
and stop fighting you already won!
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Wow, I'm on vacation and was trying to catch up.
I can't believe I wasted an hour reading the last 10 pages of this thread! But I'm glad you both kissed and made up!
You guys are makeing me miss my car...and also making me consider stopping to post on Scion Life...
...YEAH RIGHT!
Just one question, travis, from like 9 pages back:
What does this mean?
Was tha a political statement?
I can't believe I wasted an hour reading the last 10 pages of this thread! But I'm glad you both kissed and made up!
You guys are makeing me miss my car...and also making me consider stopping to post on Scion Life...
...YEAH RIGHT!
Just one question, travis, from like 9 pages back:
What does this mean?
so it's beating a dead bush from here on out
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Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
so it's beating a dead bush from here on out
Meaning we are just going to keep going back and forth and end up getting no where...
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
so it's beating a dead bush from here on out
Meaning we are just going to keep going back and forth and end up getting no where...
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Originally Posted by TurboToyotas
Heh Brett.........
The clock has started....
Oct 21st is only a month away
But as always.....Have fun
Regards-
Todd
The clock has started....
Oct 21st is only a month away
But as always.....Have fun
Regards-
Todd
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Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
so it's beating a dead bush from here on out
Meaning we are just going to keep going back and forth and end up getting no where...
Boondock Saints FTW!