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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by scikotictc232
what do you mean decendent showed you its just talk and money ^^ curious man. I am contiplating getting a standalone so I dont pop my motor just cruising around. or i guess to be safer. can you explain though ?

what i meant was decendent or chis rados xb is almost the same build on there xb 2.7 L stroker motor parts from bc and block sleeved by bardon but decendent racing built it its almost the same build (accept they exstract 900 hp from that motor )no there not the best but they are freakin bad ___ and there for they seem to show us or at least me how to build the right set up on a 2.4 and thats what i mean its just talk and money im talking and it can be simply done with money
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 11:49 PM
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this is a site showing his xb and some specs

http://photocarsonline.com/blog/2009...mate-scion-xb/
Old Jun 19, 2009 | 03:33 AM
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They have corporate sponsorship so I cannot compete against that period. And there build is good but pushing the motor to 2.7 isn't safe for a DD car. Trust me I did my research and if I could have safely pushed the engine to a 2.7 with the stroker kit I would have but I haven't found one engine builder saying a 92mm bore on our cars are safe, so I stuck with 90mm. When you have sponsorship like Scion you can afford to push things to the limit because it can be redone easily. Like I said I have been long in this game just didn't have the funds back in the day as I do now.
Old Jun 19, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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i never said anything about competing against them just saying there giving me a guideline to go by

that block isnt safe to really bore at all but?

they didnt have it bored, if you ever seen a darton sleeve its not bored and relined they cut the cylinder walls completely out and press all 4 cylinders in @ one time,
one piece

but i can only say they claim like that, that block is good to 1000 hp but of course they changed the mains also to billet mains and rebore the line for the stroker crank

and bye they, i mean thats not decendents claimes thats dartons claims, for $7500 block machining it should do something

you seem to be good at this game and seem to have done some homework ur build looks right so far but ur only 28 dude ur game at best cant be more than 13 yrs u were only 15 then

none the less im hoping ur build goes better than expected and last long enough to smoke some evo's,civics and the rest of the competition out there

cuz there are way too many scion haters that need to see what time it is

and i here ya on the funds it aint cheep
Old Jun 20, 2009 | 03:26 AM
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When I said bore I am refereeing only to the size not actually boring the cylinders out they used 92mm sleeves, taking the word from multiple engine builders and such I am sticking with 90mm sleeves.

Time spent in the game doesn't really matter as long as you have done all of your research, learn from others mistakes, read a lot of engine books, do the calculations needed to safely run, and have a good engine builder/tuner.
Old Jun 20, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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90mm bore is about as far as i would go.. reboring in the future might be necessary should abnormal wear on the cylinders happens.. its safer too
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Car will be getting a 07 engine used. The shop had an 07 laying around and ask me if I minded if he used the 07 of course I said I do not mind. I just needed the S/N to order the OEM replacement parts. The engine will be new regardless of what is used everything will be changed. I am going with a .63 A/R compressor housing now instead of the .60 A/R.
Old Jun 30, 2009 | 05:55 AM
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Update. I sold the turbo with everything else left. I will be purchasing a new GT3582R with .70 a/r compressor and .78 a/r divided v-band turbine housing. The engine sleeves should be in sometime this week. Once I get the S/N from the engine I will be ordering OEM replacement parts i.e. oil pump, timing components, gaskets, and etc. The transmission is already being worked on and I should start seeing pictures sometime soon. O.S. Giken LSD has been received and it is a the cryo treatment place as well.
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nice! of course the build should have a bigger turbo!
Old Jun 30, 2009 | 06:47 AM
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Nicely done. Can't wait to see some pics
Old Jun 30, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwatz5219
Nicely done. Can't wait to see some pics
Me either

BC stage II turbo cams, BC .5mm oversized valves, spring and retainer kit on order.
Old Jul 1, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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i hadint seen this since my last post!

wow! this is and be one of the first tc's done right!

ur wallet must be wore out
Old Jul 1, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ElevationTC


i hadint seen this since my last post!

wow! this is and be one of the first tc's done right!

ur wallet must be wore out
LMAO! That is what Iraq is for.
Old Jul 1, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackKnight
Originally Posted by ElevationTC


i hadint seen this since my last post!

wow! this is and be one of the first tc's done right!

ur wallet must be wore out
LMAO! That is what Iraq is for.
Sign me up!

i need some more parts for my car! I will be able to quit my night time prostitution
Old Jul 2, 2009 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ElevationTC
I will be able to quit my night time prostitution
Old Jul 2, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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You have officially made my sig.
Old Jul 2, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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You have officially made my sig.



Sad part is I didn't mention that none of my parts received were coated.
Old Jul 2, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by scikotictc232
decedent seems good, their race car features a lot of stuff that they sell. I have heard different theories on their manifolds though. I have not personally looked into them though to really place my thoughts. Zpi had good brain washing skills, their products sucked ***** ( most of their poop looked like it was made at home, or would fit at homemadeturbo.com. I am curious man you gotta explain your self. Not bashing just interested in what you know or have been told.

I take that as an insult. Especially when it's not true. Company sucked...product...not likely. Everyone knows the product was the one thing that "didn't" suck.
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excited to see this monster done.... thats a big turbo your running, hopefully ull be able to spool it up hah,
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Originally Posted by SoFloTC
excited to see this monster done.... thats a big turbo your running, hopefully ull be able to spool it up hah,

3 inch exhaust
2.6L of displacement
Twin scroll manifold

Something tells me it won't have much of a problem at all...

And I already got shotgun with the video camera waiting...

Not to brag and all...but we have some really Bomb **** tC's coming out of TN. Now when you get back home Nick, we have to do a full feature video shoot with the rest of the crew..



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