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Old 02-01-2014, 10:11 PM
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Ok so I am building my motor (2006 Tc) I have everything ready for my build and block 20over and new pistons and MANLEY H-Beams rods. My problem is after putting the short block together and after everything was torqued down I had tried to rotate my crank to get cylinder 1 to TDC and it took a dead stop!!!!!

WTF I know, it turns out the my H beam rods are touching the corner of the cylinder wall of the exhaust side of the block only. When rotated all rods will touch at the same time of stroke on the exhaust side.

Has anyone else seen this or experienced it? I am getting ready to bring the block back to the machine shop so my machinist can trim that point to make them work. Any thoughts?
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While I dont have experience with the Manley H Beams in our motors this is a common practice when using aftermarket rods.
Although it is supposed to be noted when purchasing the rods or in the box they came in.
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Thank you for the in put and calming my nerves
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You have to notch the block for clearance on this rod.
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
You have to notch the block for clearance on this rod.
Thank you guys. Sending it back to machine shop tomorrow. Do you guys know what power people are making with these rods? I heard the absolute max is 500whp then there is a high chance of snapping them?
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Originally Posted by Mkoch27
Thank you guys. Sending it back to machine shop tomorrow. Do you guys know what power people are making with these rods? I heard the absolute max is 500whp then there is a high chance of snapping them?
False. The longevity of said rod or any rod for that matter is contingent upon the quality of the tune and the fuel used. Control detonation and your rods will last.
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My turbo tuffs are rated for dang near 1000hp.
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Yea I want those but I already got these. I am only looking for like 400whp but might chill at like 380 or close to it
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Noice. Those are some serious numbers with the tC.
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What aftermarket h beams dont require notching?
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Originally Posted by maherdan82
What aftermarket h beams dont require notching?
Here:
http://www.dezod.com/pd_molnar.cfm
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Thanks Paul.
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
Molnar is based in Grand Rapids Do you know if they are manufactured here as well? The main office is about 10 minutes from my apartment.
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Originally Posted by burgandybomber
Molnar is based in Grand Rapids Do you know if they are manufactured here as well? The main office is about 10 minutes from my apartment.
They finish and assemble the rods there, but not manufacture. If you go there, ask for Tom and tell him I sent you.
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So what is the best way to prevent dettination? I am going to be running a 18G BB turbo.
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Originally Posted by Mkoch27
So what is the best way to prevent dettination? I am going to be running a 18G BB turbo.
Tune it well with a quality fuel.
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I am going to be using 93 octane and maybe use ethanol free when I can.

And some updates. I got the block notched and the assembly spins now. Continuing to build now.
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Does anyone know about the hydraulic cam gear? If I am re using mine do I need to re set ur or just put it in the new cam and leave it?
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
Tune it well with a quality fuel.
What do you mean by quality of fuel? Would I be correct to assume you mean grade i.e octane? If you pump gas its almost impossible to tell if what is on the sign is what is in the ground. Learned that from working at a gas station We were brand Ours is Better and when the truck was done filling up, he would drive about 100 yards across the street to Super Convenience Gas.
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Btw sounds like your going to be having some fun when she is all back together ;)
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