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Old 06-18-2007, 03:07 PM
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I`m going to boost the tC and I`ve been looking into standalones. My goal is 350WHP. So, do I need internals? If so, does a standalone make it where you don`t need internals? Because I`m on a budget here and don`t wanna build the block, for now anyway. I wanna run 10PSI, is that safe for internals and can the E-Manage Ultimate do that?
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I`m going to boost the tC and I`ve been looking into standalones. My goal is 350WHP. So, do I need internals? If so, does a standalone make it where you don`t need internals? Because I`m on a budget here and don`t wanna build the block, for now anyway. I wanna run 10PSI, is that safe for internals and can the E-Manage Ultimate do that?


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350 is pushing it on stock internals. 10 psi wont get you there with a piggyback.

standalone > pggyback

one last thing:

DONT BOOST ON A BUDGET
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I`m going to boost the tC and I`ve been looking into standalones. My goal is 350WHP. So, do I need internals? If so, does a standalone make it where you don`t need internals? Because I`m on a budget here and don`t wanna build the block, for now anyway. I wanna run 10PSI, is that safe for internals and can the E-Manage Ultimate do that?
low budget, and high horsepower...

i see a problem already
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whats that old saying.. cheap, reliable, fast.. pick two..
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I was thinking about getting a loan from the bank and that oughta help a lot. I guess I`ll go with a standalone, but at the same time, I sort of think it`s not worth it because I just want 300-325WHP.
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Originally Posted by djafropiq
whats that old saying.. cheap, reliable, fast.. pick two..
haha true that.

honestly it depends what your long term goal is, there is no way your going to squeeze out 350whp and have long engine life. build the block and then boost.
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I`m going to boost the tC and I`ve been looking into standalones. My goal is 350WHP. So, do I need internals? If so, does a standalone make it where you don`t need internals? Because I`m on a budget here and don`t wanna build the block, for now anyway. I wanna run 10PSI, is that safe for internals and can the E-Manage Ultimate do that?
ultimate or even blue can handle 10 psi. if you have a budget then i dont think you can get a standalone.. that will run you 2000 ish alone.. i think you can probably build up you motor some with that much money.. also if youre going to be adding to your build over time it might be better to start off with the emanage.. standalone when your finally done.. because i think one cost more to tune then the other and you need to retune everytime you add something.
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hydra FTW ..... it will squeeze more power out of that 10 lbs you will be running...
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Originally Posted by Whocares05050
one last thing:

DONT BOOST ON A BUDGET

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So, Hydra is better than the AEM?

You think I should get a loan from the bank so I can do internals?
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i think you should do research on what you're doing. the TC can handle up to 12 psi daily driven. but that is ABSOLUTELY the limit on stock internals. if you build your internals you can throw 30psi at it and it won't care. but you run into the problem all FWD cars have. you will have problems hooking up for traction. it's not just what can my engine handle. you need to get that power to the ground. so if you do that better get some stiff coilovers to help with traction and have fun pricing thoes out. it's been said a countless amout of time and it will be said countless more. it is NOT as simple as putting a turbo kit on your car and you're set.
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Do you currently owe on your tC already?
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Originally Posted by azepolyn
Do you currently owe on your tC already?
Yea, I`m making car payments if that`s what you`re asking.
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DONT BOOST ON A BUDGET

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And this means what to me?
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Originally Posted by Syldrin
i think you should do research on what you're doing. the TC can handle up to 12 psi daily driven. but that is ABSOLUTELY the limit on stock internals. if you build your internals you can throw 30psi at it and it won't care. but you run into the problem all FWD cars have. you will have problems hooking up for traction. it's not just what can my engine handle. you need to get that power to the ground. so if you do that better get some stiff coilovers to help with traction and have fun pricing thoes out. it's been said a countless amout of time and it will be said countless more. it is NOT as simple as putting a turbo kit on your car and you're set.
12 PSI is NOT the limit of the stock internals. You have to remember that each turbo puts out different power at different PSI.

Ive been running 14 PSI for 6 months now, stock internals. Boost dosnt usually blow motors, the tune usually does.
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DONT BOOST ON A BUDGET

helllloooooo sig
And this means what to me?
ment it was funny. and worthy of being put in a sig
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Originally Posted by 20tCDude05
Originally Posted by azepolyn
Do you currently owe on your tC already?
Yea, I`m making car payments if that`s what you`re asking.
I think he is trying to tell you to pay off your car first
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one last thing:

DONT BOOST ON A BUDGET

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ment it was funny. and worthy of being put in a sig


I spent like 5 minutes looking at everyones sig scratching my head, saying

" WTF is he talking about sigs for? whos sig? "

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Originally Posted by Whocares05050
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Originally Posted by azepolyn
Do you currently owe on your tC already?
Yea, I`m making car payments if that`s what you`re asking.
I think he is trying to tell you to pay off your car first
If that`s the case, then I wouldn`t be able to boost the tC for 1.75 yrs. :-(
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no one said anythign about not boosting it
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