New clutches for Forced Induction
08-31-2012, 04:33 PM
#1
New clutches for Forced Induction
Well, not really. It's more like a re-introduction. We have been working with Competition Clutch for the past several months on and off about getting the tC part numbers revised for success. After lots of back and forth, we have we have finally met a middle ground with the company and have gotten them to scrap the existing design all together and offer new, revised, better components all the way around.
EVERY component under-went an overhaul. The bearings no longer have the plastic collar, they are all metal and much higher quality.
The plates where designed to provide more lift and more plate load without sacrificing pedal stiffness.
The discs are as well as the hubs receive a special heat treatment to keep from expanding and contracting under heat and load (which we believe to be causing springs to pop out).
The results of lots of effort and such on their end as a manufacturer has lead to a much better part overall in our opinion; one that's comparable to Exedy or ACT.
I know there are going to be some real sour notes on this subject as we where VERY sour about this well when they contacted us about re-entering this market. However, they have definitely shown improvement and are willing to take the hard road back into this community by offering HONEST, straight forward service.
Competition Clutch is going to bat for you and the Scion community by the following commendable actions:
1) CC is offering you to send in the old/defective product and they will switch out for new product at no charge. No questions asked! You are out just shipping there! (about $15-20)
2) CC would like you to offer a deal on the first 10 or so clutch kits. The first 3 customers to post an HONEST review of their new CC clutch versus their previous clutch (CC or not), will receive a credit of $75 to our store FREE while enjoying a new CC clutch at a NICELY discounted price. (lower than the lowest priced ACT)
3) CC redesigned the complete line-up of clutches for this applications including the following:
Stock Replacement
Stage 1 Gravity
Stage 2 - Steelback Brass Plus
Stage 3 - Segmented Ceramic
Stage 4 - 6 Pad Rigid Ceramic
Stage 4 - 6 Pad Ceramic
Stage 5 - 4 Pad Rigid Ceramic
Stage 5 - 4 Pad Ceramic
Twin Disc
Competition Clutch is willing to invest a lot of time, effort and has already invested dollars into getting back into this community. I feel that their new, clear cut part revisions, policy changes, and their willingness to come to the fore-front with an honestly good product and no hidden punches shows they are ready for the big times again.
We here at Dezod are taking a gamble with this as well. We have continued to sell CC products on various applications with tremendous success, however for some reason the tC parts just never got off the ground right. Now, with their revised designs, and knowing what to correct with our help, I feel they have potential to offer some of the nicest and most cost effective products out there.
We are even getting them to bend a step further in case of failures (let's hope we don't have to go here), that they would help compensate on some of the labor for the replacement if all else fails. Overall, I do not see ANY manufacturer in this industry willing to go THAT far to get back into this game. So we feel comfortable beginning to help in this reintroduction.
What are your thoughts?
FYI, there are all new part numbers which will be added into our system next week sometime.
EVERY component under-went an overhaul. The bearings no longer have the plastic collar, they are all metal and much higher quality.
The plates where designed to provide more lift and more plate load without sacrificing pedal stiffness.
The discs are as well as the hubs receive a special heat treatment to keep from expanding and contracting under heat and load (which we believe to be causing springs to pop out).
The results of lots of effort and such on their end as a manufacturer has lead to a much better part overall in our opinion; one that's comparable to Exedy or ACT.
I know there are going to be some real sour notes on this subject as we where VERY sour about this well when they contacted us about re-entering this market. However, they have definitely shown improvement and are willing to take the hard road back into this community by offering HONEST, straight forward service.
Competition Clutch is going to bat for you and the Scion community by the following commendable actions:
1) CC is offering you to send in the old/defective product and they will switch out for new product at no charge. No questions asked! You are out just shipping there! (about $15-20)
2) CC would like you to offer a deal on the first 10 or so clutch kits. The first 3 customers to post an HONEST review of their new CC clutch versus their previous clutch (CC or not), will receive a credit of $75 to our store FREE while enjoying a new CC clutch at a NICELY discounted price. (lower than the lowest priced ACT)
3) CC redesigned the complete line-up of clutches for this applications including the following:
Stock Replacement
Stage 1 Gravity
Stage 2 - Steelback Brass Plus
Stage 3 - Segmented Ceramic
Stage 4 - 6 Pad Rigid Ceramic
Stage 4 - 6 Pad Ceramic
Stage 5 - 4 Pad Rigid Ceramic
Stage 5 - 4 Pad Ceramic
Twin Disc
Competition Clutch is willing to invest a lot of time, effort and has already invested dollars into getting back into this community. I feel that their new, clear cut part revisions, policy changes, and their willingness to come to the fore-front with an honestly good product and no hidden punches shows they are ready for the big times again.
We here at Dezod are taking a gamble with this as well. We have continued to sell CC products on various applications with tremendous success, however for some reason the tC parts just never got off the ground right. Now, with their revised designs, and knowing what to correct with our help, I feel they have potential to offer some of the nicest and most cost effective products out there.
We are even getting them to bend a step further in case of failures (let's hope we don't have to go here), that they would help compensate on some of the labor for the replacement if all else fails. Overall, I do not see ANY manufacturer in this industry willing to go THAT far to get back into this game. So we feel comfortable beginning to help in this reintroduction.
What are your thoughts?
FYI, there are all new part numbers which will be added into our system next week sometime.
Last edited by paul_dezod; 08-31-2012 at 05:18 PM.
09-04-2012, 07:16 PM
#10
New numbers and pricing are up!
http://www.dezod.com/cat-clutch-sets.cfm
Every order gets a free CC t-shirt with it (while supplies last) (Get your swag on too)
http://www.dezod.com/cat-clutch-sets.cfm
Every order gets a free CC t-shirt with it (while supplies last) (Get your swag on too)
09-04-2012, 10:55 PM
#11
Im pretty new to aftermarket clutches, so which would be best for a 380-400 hp/tq DD? im looking at the "Competition Clutch Stage 3 Segmented Ceramic Clutch Kit-tC 05-10". Hows the pedal and engagment feel? I was told most aftermarket clutches feel really "heavy" deceleration wise, and the pedals harder to press. My OEM clutch recently started slipping, so im in need.
09-05-2012, 01:13 PM
#12
Im pretty new to aftermarket clutches, so which would be best for a 380-400 hp/tq DD? im looking at the "Competition Clutch Stage 3 Segmented Ceramic Clutch Kit-tC 05-10". Hows the pedal and engagment feel? I was told most aftermarket clutches feel really "heavy" deceleration wise, and the pedals harder to press. My OEM clutch recently started slipping, so im in need.
09-05-2012, 03:58 PM
#14
With a sprung hub, yes it can be daily driven. Many of members on here DD 4 and 6 puck clutches daily. 
It will be more on/off than anything. Simple toe flip and go.
You have to come to grips that at 400whp you have almost tripled the power of the car from the factory.
It will be more on/off than anything. Simple toe flip and go.
You have to come to grips that at 400whp you have almost tripled the power of the car from the factory.
09-05-2012, 04:39 PM
#15
I use a 6 puck sprung hub frown ACT and it's easy to DD with it. Takes a few days to get used to the engagement (closer to the floor) but it's fine once you drive it a little.
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09-06-2012, 03:13 PM
#16
11-06-2012, 02:38 PM
#18
Formal review from a customer....
Review of Competition Clutch Stage 4 Clutch Kit
Name: Julian
Affiliation: TeamNJCT
Vehicle: 2008 Scion tC
Part: Competition Clutch Stage 4 kit (p/n: 16208‐0620/1620), Sprung hub
Purchased Through: Dezod Motorsports
Purchase Date: 9/25/2012
Installation Date: 10/13/2012
Pros
Pedal feel is very light, feels similar to Exedy Stage 1
Very easy to get used to
Great torque holding capacity on hard pulls (7 psi of boost)
Good on street driving
Smooth engagement on 2nd through 5th gears
Nice appearance and packaged very well
Included free T‐Shirt
Cons
Engagement on 1st gear during break‐in is very rough
Engagement feel during break‐in period varies depending on rpm speed (very rough < 2k rpm, a
little less rough between 2k and 2500 rpm)
Drivetrain shutters excessively sometimes (after break‐in finished) if engaging under 2k rpm
Additional Notes
The drivetrain shutter could be attributed to poor clutch work on my part or weak mounts. However, I do not recall such exaggeration on shutter when breaking in my previous clutch (Exedy Single Plate Organic Clutch Kit). Overall, I am pleased so far with the performance for the price.
No buffering, this is the raw review.
Review of Competition Clutch Stage 4 Clutch Kit
Name: Julian
Affiliation: TeamNJCT
Vehicle: 2008 Scion tC
Part: Competition Clutch Stage 4 kit (p/n: 16208‐0620/1620), Sprung hub
Purchased Through: Dezod Motorsports
Purchase Date: 9/25/2012
Installation Date: 10/13/2012
Pros
Pedal feel is very light, feels similar to Exedy Stage 1
Very easy to get used to
Great torque holding capacity on hard pulls (7 psi of boost)
Good on street driving
Smooth engagement on 2nd through 5th gears
Nice appearance and packaged very well
Included free T‐Shirt
Cons
Engagement on 1st gear during break‐in is very rough
Engagement feel during break‐in period varies depending on rpm speed (very rough < 2k rpm, a
little less rough between 2k and 2500 rpm)
Drivetrain shutters excessively sometimes (after break‐in finished) if engaging under 2k rpm
Additional Notes
The drivetrain shutter could be attributed to poor clutch work on my part or weak mounts. However, I do not recall such exaggeration on shutter when breaking in my previous clutch (Exedy Single Plate Organic Clutch Kit). Overall, I am pleased so far with the performance for the price.
No buffering, this is the raw review.
11-06-2012, 10:04 PM
#19
nice to see an honest review like this posted by a dealer...good job guys and keep it up.
btw any chance of getting some pics of the clutch disks? like to see a visual of the changes. be great to see a side by side, old versus new version. iv still got some pics of the old school cc stage 4 disk i can post up.
btw any chance of getting some pics of the clutch disks? like to see a visual of the changes. be great to see a side by side, old versus new version. iv still got some pics of the old school cc stage 4 disk i can post up.
11-07-2012, 01:30 PM
#20
nice to see an honest review like this posted by a dealer...good job guys and keep it up.
btw any chance of getting some pics of the clutch disks? like to see a visual of the changes. be great to see a side by side, old versus new version. iv still got some pics of the old school cc stage 4 disk i can post up.
btw any chance of getting some pics of the clutch disks? like to see a visual of the changes. be great to see a side by side, old versus new version. iv still got some pics of the old school cc stage 4 disk i can post up.