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is it okay to drive an untuned turbo at 5psi?

Old Feb 14, 2009 | 04:09 AM
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is it okay to drive an untuned turbo at 5psi?
Old Feb 14, 2009 | 04:11 AM
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i ran my zpi stage 0 w/o tune
Old Feb 14, 2009 | 04:13 AM
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i ran my zpi stage 0 w/o tune
did you run into any problems? im using the turbonetics kit btw
Old Feb 14, 2009 | 04:16 AM
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DO NOT run a t-netics kit w/o tune!
a stage 0 is a COMPLETELY different story
Old Feb 14, 2009 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tCtCtC
DO NOT run a t-netics kit w/o tune!
a stage 0 is a COMPLETELY different story

but i heard that it is okay to run 5psi untuned. then when im ready for a tune, ill go for 7psi or 8
Old Feb 14, 2009 | 04:18 AM
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basically...no, it is not okay. as soon as you hit boost, car goes boom.

the zpi stage zero kit was a much smaller turbo then the t3/t4 that comes with a turbonetics kit. so no, do no drive around un tuned.
Old Feb 14, 2009 | 04:29 AM
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you can drive it but stay out of boost..
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the only place i would drive it un-tuned is to the tuner. and like it was said thats only if you totally stay out of boost. even then i wouldnt feel safe, save until you have enough for a tune, then install the turbo and trailer the car to the tuners.
Old Feb 14, 2009 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
the only place i would drive it un-tuned is to the tuner. and like it was said thats only if you totally stay out of boost. even then i wouldnt feel safe, save until you have enough for a tune, then install the turbo and trailer the car to the tuners.
yeah, one guy posted along time ago, he installed a greddy turbo kit and then tried to drive to the tuner and his engine went bye bye.
Old Feb 14, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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yea cuz he probably was stupid enough to drive and boost.
Old Feb 14, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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i drove around on my treadstone kit for 2 months at 5psi untuned no problem, but when i upped it to 7psi i got it tunned , ptuning ftw
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:02 AM
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dude i've been boosted since apr 08 and i drive it everyday and it is fine. i bought my kit used and i boost everyday. just dont drive it like a d*ck. I've just been running super rich until i tune in a few weeks .
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:04 AM
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i've only been running 5 -6 psi like rjweitzel was
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i would atleast get a base map to start things off with......lots of people will help you out in that department. just ask around. better safe than sorry, i have run without a tune for a day or two but with larger injectors which kinda sucked but it can be done and if your careful about it you wont have a problem, however i do stress you do this at your own risk....if something happens dont come to me....lol
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Originally Posted by beastC
dude i've been boosted since apr 08 and i drive it everyday and it is fine. i bought my kit used and i boost everyday. just dont drive it like a d*ck. I've just been running super rich until i tune in a few weeks .
well since you bought it used it would make sense that it already has a tune on it...?
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:49 AM
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not really, but FINE i'll admit it.

ive been driving for almost 5 months on boost with not even a management system plugged in, our cars can handle it, just no WOT.

partial throttle boost the car handles 5 pounds just fine.

or maybe im lucky
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yeah wot sucks becouse with larger injectors i noticed id go hella rich but i noticed slight boost up to 5psi would lean out bad if you wher in closed loop (ie partial throttle). atleast thats what i observed.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:05 AM
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yea closed loop at 5 psi your ecu would make the afr's around 12ish.

which is bad for turbo...but if you're willing to risk it, by all means. 12 isn't THAT bad. i have seen a piston with a hole in it after 12's at 5 pounds though
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Originally Posted by aen
yea closed loop at 5 psi your ecu would make the afr's around 12ish.

which is bad for turbo...but if you're willing to risk it, by all means. 12 isn't THAT bad. i have seen a piston with a hole in it after 12's at 5 pounds though
i seen spikes of up to 14 but not at 5psi more like 2-3 maybe
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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All it takes is one good det and bye bye block. Not worth the hassle. Get a tune and do not drive until then

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