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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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The TRD supercharger is capable of putting out 30 psi, although when installed by the dealership and under warranty it is set at 6 psi. Starting in 2008, Scion began making the supercharger with tamper proof pulleys.

is this true about the 08 s/c?
Old Feb 15, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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isnt the charger from trd pushing 7psi? i could be wrong

but it doesnt matter anymore there discontinuing the damn thing cause of how garbage it is anyway. so u better get them while there hot meaning better get them while the dealer even has them in stock
Old Feb 15, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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no way man not 30 psi... lol from what i know the 14 psi pulley is about the smallest u can put on it that will still work... i could be wrong but i dont think so, and even then there are very few running a 14 psi pulley
Old Feb 15, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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i think the vortech unit is rated for 20psi max. the trd half of it (shaft and bearings and pulley) are not gonna go that high.

trd does not give it an official psi number (due to how many times i asked them directly what its supposed to make). but most people experience 7psi stock.
Old Feb 15, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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o i c, so toyota isnt gona make anymore s/c huh, well i think im gona go buy one then
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nah there not making anymore I guess cause of all the problems they've been having with them, watever is left in the dealers is wats left in general
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you know whats funny?

ive spoken to bob garner myself, the head guy at TRD who claims he has designed and worked on the s/c unit itself, and he claims he has NEVER heard of problems coming up with these units. at all.
Old Feb 16, 2009 | 06:26 AM
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you know whats funny?

ive spoken to bob garner myself, the head guy at TRD who claims he has designed and worked on the s/c unit itself, and he claims he has NEVER heard of problems coming up with these units. at all.
I showed him pics of mine broken, and he agreed it was broken, then when the dealership tried to b/s me and say it was fine. I called him up and he was like "I have to go by what the dealership says, i know its broken, but I can't do anything about it. Total crock of horse shiz. They are all _______s I don't care what anyone thinks of them. And their design is stupid and their stupid bearings aren't even rated for the right rpm.
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wow sum1s indenial about there "amazing" kits lol that sux man I got rid of my charger as soon as I got my car
Old Feb 16, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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slowchargers are not worth it imo...

at first you think it will keep ur warrenty.. but then you find out its usually the one causing the probs!
Old Feb 16, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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the units are fine. i think if you want a well balanced car in power and handling, the supercharger, working properly, is great. sure if you want all-out power and sacrifice your handling - go turbo. but its just unfortunate the s/c units arent reliable.
Old Feb 16, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hunterUnknown
the units are fine. i think if you want a well balanced car in power and handling, the supercharger, working properly, is great. sure if you want all-out power and sacrifice your handling - go turbo. but its just unfortunate the s/c units arent reliable.

Sacrifice your handling? How you figure that one?
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the natural limitations of a fwd. an open differential with dramatically increased power and torque from a turbo... is not a good equation for handling.

even with the supercharger, my handling dropped off swiftly due to inside wheelspin.
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Originally Posted by hunterUnknown
the natural limitations of a fwd. an open differential with dramatically increased power and torque from a turbo... is not a good equation for handling.

even with the supercharger, my handling dropped off swiftly due to inside wheelspin.


You sounded as if you add a turbo, and your car is going to go skidding off the road or something.

Just because your FWD does not equate to "you should not turbo". If that was the case, we wouldn't have 10sec FWD cars, or FWD cars out running RWD/AWD ones in Time Attack.

Got problems with handling, get better tires, LSD, suspension etc...

You would to give me a Supercharger in order for me to have one...and then you would have to pay me to put it on my car...
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defensiiiive. dont exaggerate what i said. i said you sacrifice your handling, as in take away from it. thats all.

and you can make any car fast, but it requires less work on a rwd/awd platform. as you just stated, you HAVE to invest in differential changes, tires, and suspension to make up for pretty much any significant gain in FWD power. if youre interested in balance anyway. if not, hey, welcome to the world of 99% of scion owners.
Old Feb 16, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hunterUnknown
defensiiiive. dont exaggerate what i said. i said you sacrifice your handling, as in take away from it. thats all.

and you can make any car fast, but it requires less work on a rwd/awd platform. as you just stated, you HAVE to invest in differential changes, tires, and suspension to make up for pretty much any significant gain in FWD power. if youre interested in balance anyway. if not, hey, welcome to the world of 99% of scion owners.

Defensive? What would I be defending....going turbo vs S/C'er....lol, no defense needed there. I was just merely trying to make sense of a comment. Which still doesn't make sense to be quite honest.

My tC is entering in the Redline Time Attack this season if that tells you anything about my interest. And ANY car including RWD/AWD needs changes in differential, tires, suspension to make up for the significant gains in hp.

Ever try running a RWD car with 300+whp on street tires....spins just like every other car does. AWD not so much, but there is a point where you exceed the capacity of stock components....regardless of the drive train. It's your job to RE-balance the machine.
Old Feb 16, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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yup, all correct. just stop taking what i say to an extreme and you'll see we're saying the same thing. i said "less" work, not NO work.

we're into the same things - so im tossing the tc.
Old Feb 17, 2009 | 02:19 AM
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Just trying to see what your comment was about.
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