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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 03:45 AM
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Default SC with intake & 9.5 pulley. do i need emanage or tune?

I've had my SC for about 2 weeks now. just put on the 9.5 NST pulley, and getting the MMW intake from an SL member this weekend. I want to be one the safe side, but i also want a bit more power.

Do i need a tune? If so, my options are with Greddy EManage or UniChip correct?

Any local tuners in SoCal that knows what they're doing?
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 03:53 AM
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church's in wilmington, ca (right next to long beach).....really cool people, for my turbo was like 220 for 2 hrs of tuning and lots of dyno runs.....are you auto or manual....cause i think churchs doesn't tune autos....
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 04:01 AM
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Have a link/info to the shop?
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 05:48 AM
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www.churchdyno.com

they're quoting 275 flat rate now and unlimited pulls/time until u are satisfied with the tune.
to answer the original question, you NEED one of two things. Either get the reflash which is 500 + 100 for install, or get Emanage for around 350 + 100 for install at ur local shop or DIY for free and then get it tuned. You will be running rich even though after a while, ur stock ECU will adjust...just not all the way. Can't get on it too much without either because it could lead to detonation from what i've been told. I'm waiting to get mine and then get the dyno tune also before i really get on it. I got the supercharger rebuilt with german bearings (i heard it's a little better, definitely sounds cool right?) and the zpi stage 0 s/c pulley, and custom CAI so hopefully, i'll be between 200 and 210whp after the tune...i hope.
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 06:44 AM
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remember that if you do buy an emanage, you need a harness unless you want to splice all your wires which could kind of messy.....

also e-mail them and tell them you setup, and you can get hookups if you e-mail them before cause they usually never charge the price on the site to us so calers, haha
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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get emanage ultimate. no less.

on TRD reflash + 9.5 pulley+CAI, we were running very lean up top. car didnt run as strong as it should and was totally inefficient.

now after my tune, its such a big difference.
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with a 9.5 pulley you do not need to get tuned. Even with the intake it will run lean but should be fine. Any car thats not tuned you can argue that its running inefficient because it is ....the tune is generic.

But you can contact MMW to see what air/fuel they were running. I know for a fact that with just the 9.5pulley you 100% do not need to get tuned. It is a proven fact that the airfuel is 100% safe w/o the tune. There was a 10lb pulley test and it showed that it was pushing the safety mark so NST backed down to the 9.5lbs mark.
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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^ Yup Running 14:7 cruising 12:1 part and 11:2-10:7 wot on the top, I think running a full cai not just a sri woudl probably keep better a/f's.
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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I wouldn't worry if I were you. Most people with basic bolt-ons stay on the stock tune. But if you want more power and more efficiency go with the emanage ultimate.
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 01:32 AM
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^ that is the best way to put it
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 02:40 AM
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maybe i'm getting ahead of myself then. I should just take it one step at at time.

so.. should i get the MMW SC intake? is it too lean with the 9.5 NST Pulley? Am i gonna have issues with it?
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 03:38 AM
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couldnt you just get one of those camcon fuel computers,for that few of mods?
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its not too lean to damage anything. but longevity may be questionable in the very long run. Also, dont expect to get the most HP without a tune.

u can just cut your current CAI to make it fit with the blower. thats what i did with my Injen CAI. The MMW is redicously priced.

AEM EMS is by far the best system out there. I'd say Emanage Ultimate+dezod PnP harness is next. The ease of tunability on the emanage ult is really nice. I'm able to modify fuel/ignition myself whenever needed. Whereas Unichip, it gets really complicated.

Dont cheap out on fuel management on any setup. For few mods, its best to leave stock ecu.
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with no tune and the 9.5 pound pulley and what not...you will not be running lean, but running rich. Trust me on this, way more fuel than air in that mixture...and gas mileage has definitely suffered! You don't wanna run lean long if you are, detonation will be imminent if you run lean too long and get on it too much
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Originally Posted by 05-RS1
on TRD reflash + 9.5 pulley+CAI, we were running very lean up top. car didnt run as strong as it should and was totally inefficient.
LEAN

Originally Posted by BuddhasTC
with no tune and the 9.5 pound pulley and what not...you will not be running lean, but running rich.
RICH


so which is it? Will MMW intake be lean or rich with 9.5 pulley
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with the reflash...it will run lean because the reflash is setup for the 7 lb pulley not nine. So if u don't get the reflash, and dont get any ecu, you will be rich...and i don't mean that in a good way
Old Jul 15, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by malibuboy54
church's in wilmington, ca (right next to long beach).....really cool people, for my turbo was like 220 for 2 hrs of tuning and lots of dyno runs.....are you auto or manual....cause i think churchs doesn't tune autos....

+1 at church

i had my baselines over there.

btw im selling my emanage ultimate + pnp + afr + map

click my thread
Old Jul 15, 2007 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dieselstation
Originally Posted by 05-RS1
on TRD reflash + 9.5 pulley+CAI, we were running very lean up top. car didnt run as strong as it should and was totally inefficient.
LEAN

Originally Posted by BuddhasTC
with no tune and the 9.5 pound pulley and what not...you will not be running lean, but running rich.
RICH


so which is it? Will MMW intake be lean or rich with 9.5 pulley
also selling a almost new aem wideband 5k on it.

then u be able to tell lean or rich. you dont want to tune using the exhaust sniffer.
Old Jul 15, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BuddhasTC
with the reflash...it will run lean because the reflash is setup for the 7 lb pulley not nine. So if u don't get the reflash, and dont get any ecu, you will be rich...and i don't mean that in a good way
well, considering that without the reflash hes gonna be running stock timing which is really gonna kill the motor over any lean or rich condition with a 9.5 psi pulley
Old Jul 15, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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Wont the 9.5 pulley void the cars warranty?



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