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Originally Posted by TurboToyotas
PS- Travis how much boost is Mike(Whocares) running and what is his peak hp/trq?
This is related to the thread, just bare with me.
Or if you can post up a dyno sheet of his and one of Jeremys for comparison....this will help
This is related to the thread, just bare with me.
Or if you can post up a dyno sheet of his and one of Jeremys for comparison....this will helpI have a shot of his Dyno sheet, but it's in the form of a Pic on my cell phone that he had sent to me. He had trouble with his scanner, so whenever he get that worked out, I'm sure he will up load it.
He has ran it up to 13.5/14lbs of boost. His dyno is a 10lbs with 295whp and a little bit more tQ. He doesn't have a dyno of 13.5/14lbs because he only turned it up to that a couple of days after the dyno session was over.
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Originally Posted by bcnu_702
I'm sorry but I gotta chime in here. Walking over a Dodge Viper (550hp) is quite a feat in a 4 banger, even with a built motor. These cars run 11's stock all day any day...so yeah maybe the guy is slow on shifting, low 12's...still a nice kill with a small turbo!
Todd, I know you were being a smartass though so no harm, but I felt left out LOL
Small Turbos FTW!!!
Todd, I know you were being a smartass though so no harm, but I felt left out LOL
Small Turbos FTW!!!
The tC in question....IS fast enough to run 11's bro. GOD I swear, there is always someone to put their 2 cents in to say...."oh, he wasn't driving"....or...."he mis-shifted, you can hear it if you listen real close when the vid gets to 2:30 into it"...
Low 12's on a small turbo was done over 2 years ago WITHOUT a built motor...does that help in your doubt?
This was a spur of the moment race, so there is no vid of it. However, there is a vid of a tC running 10.5 @ 140mph in the 1/4 mile (Street Class). So, lining that up next to a Viper, and you can see, with the right equippment, we can take out a Viper.
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I'm sorry but I gotta chime in here. Walking over a Dodge Viper (550hp) is quite a feat in a 4 banger, even with a built motor. These cars run 11's stock all day any day...so yeah maybe the guy is slow on shifting, low 12's...still a nice kill with a small turbo!
Todd, I know you were being a smartass though so no harm, but I felt left out LOL
Small Turbos FTW!!!
The tC in question....IS fast enough to run 11's bro. GOD I swear, there is always someone to put their 2 cents in to say...."oh, he wasn't driving"....or...."he mis-shifted, you can hear it if you listen real close when the vid gets to 2:30 into it"...
Low 12's on a small turbo was done over 2 years ago WITHOUT a built motor...does that help in your doubt?
I'm sorry but I gotta chime in here. Walking over a Dodge Viper (550hp) is quite a feat in a 4 banger, even with a built motor. These cars run 11's stock all day any day...so yeah maybe the guy is slow on shifting, low 12's...still a nice kill with a small turbo!
Todd, I know you were being a smartass though so no harm, but I felt left out LOL
Small Turbos FTW!!!
The tC in question....IS fast enough to run 11's bro. GOD I swear, there is always someone to put their 2 cents in to say...."oh, he wasn't driving"....or...."he mis-shifted, you can hear it if you listen real close when the vid gets to 2:30 into it"...
Low 12's on a small turbo was done over 2 years ago WITHOUT a built motor...does that help in your doubt?
Don't mean to sound harsh either. Just it happens a lot when you post up something like that on the internet. Just read a few comments on Street Fire....it's the same old stuff being said.
i.e. When Kenny raced the Cobb Stage II WRX, and was right next to him.
Comments afterwards always follow the pattern of:
"WRX guy couldn't drive"
"WRX wasn't even on it, you can tell, cause it should be louder than that tC"
...stuff kinda gets old after a while.
So, apologize if I seemed a little short tempered.
^^^ yeah.. thats why is good when ur friend has that car and u can tell him.. listen.. now im gonna drive ur car and u gonna drive my car... and lets see if the tc could win again.. if yes.. they gonna say: of course, because the tc driver in the wrx didnt floor it.. or something like that
lol
btw already asked: the turbo pulling a lot when u driving 80mph???
NOT WHEN U FLOOR IT... when u just drive 80 mph... with cruise control or whatever...
lol
btw already asked: the turbo pulling a lot when u driving 80mph???
NOT WHEN U FLOOR IT... when u just drive 80 mph... with cruise control or whatever...
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Travis, here is the main difference between a stage 1 log and this type of setup...
296whp at 8 psi on an uber safe tune
Simply put, a setup this efficient making this power at low boost will walk all over a log kit at the same psi or even 2-4 more psi running the 1320. Sure you guys spool much quicker with your tiny turbos and that probably makes it fun bouncing in and out of boost all the time like a lot of the oem setups, and yeah if you only race running through 1 quick gear and then lifting, then you may have some advantage unless the other driver knows what he is doing But were you actually drive a car when running it hard in the mid - high rpm range, the power output just is not available as a log style and tiny turbo is just not efficient enough. You guys can argue 2500rpm boost levels all you like, but once you have driven with a setup like this you will understand it is no toy and not somthing to poke a stick at. Power is focused exactly were I want it if I am running it hard, torque a monster. FAR more than I ever expected out of stock internals. Anyways who drives there car around at 2500-2800rpm? Auto tranny drivers? Come on guys! haha.
Another nice fact, 4200 rpm = 304ft lbs @ 10 psi running high 10's a/f wise with a lot of timing pulled for testing *LOL*
Something even more fun 296whp @ 8 psi on an uber safe tune, Intense is going to get her out of the uber safe testing tune and at 8 psi I guarantee she will be making a little over 300+ whp at low boost! Try to do that with a 16G and a log. I pretty much only see 230-250whp runs at this boost level.
I simply love the way she runs, does not bounce into and out of boost with cruise control on eating gas and does not have to bouce into boost while taking a small hill. Driving this baby is bliss, and I am happy to take a freeway vid of how she spools! I plan a lot of vids.
I also WELCOME the locals in az to come check it out, will take locals out for a spin that want to feel the difference in power. I have a local guy running a stage 0 zpi and a few local buds running dezod kits. I am happy to let them give there opinion at how this car runs at 8 psi compared to there own cars at 10psi hehe
Here is the uber safe dyno run at 10 psi with the intense power kit. Please post up all of your dyno runs here if you want a side by side comparison! Then, I will be posting up this kits 8 psi run vs your 10 psi+ runs!
Also guys, do NOT forget! This testing was all done with a STOCK exhaust! Wait until the flow restriction is all free... then more numbers to come hehe.
296whp at 8 psi on an uber safe tune
Simply put, a setup this efficient making this power at low boost will walk all over a log kit at the same psi or even 2-4 more psi running the 1320. Sure you guys spool much quicker with your tiny turbos and that probably makes it fun bouncing in and out of boost all the time like a lot of the oem setups, and yeah if you only race running through 1 quick gear and then lifting, then you may have some advantage unless the other driver knows what he is doing
But were you actually drive a car when running it hard in the mid - high rpm range, the power output just is not available as a log style and tiny turbo is just not efficient enough. You guys can argue 2500rpm boost levels all you like, but once you have driven with a setup like this you will understand it is no toy and not somthing to poke a stick at. Power is focused exactly were I want it if I am running it hard, torque a monster. FAR more than I ever expected out of stock internals. Anyways who drives there car around at 2500-2800rpm? Auto tranny drivers? Come on guys! haha.Another nice fact, 4200 rpm = 304ft lbs @ 10 psi running high 10's a/f wise with a lot of timing pulled for testing *LOL*
Something even more fun 296whp @ 8 psi on an uber safe tune, Intense is going to get her out of the uber safe testing tune and at 8 psi I guarantee she will be making a little over 300+ whp at low boost!
Try to do that with a 16G and a log. I pretty much only see 230-250whp runs at this boost level.I simply love the way she runs, does not bounce into and out of boost with cruise control on eating gas and does not have to bouce into boost while taking a small hill. Driving this baby is bliss, and I am happy to take a freeway vid of how she spools! I plan a lot of vids.
I also WELCOME the locals in az to come check it out, will take locals out for a spin that want to feel the difference in power. I have a local guy running a stage 0 zpi and a few local buds running dezod kits. I am happy to let them give there opinion at how this car runs at 8 psi compared to there own cars at 10psi hehe
Here is the uber safe dyno run at 10 psi with the intense power kit. Please post up all of your dyno runs here if you want a side by side comparison! Then, I will be posting up this kits 8 psi run vs your 10 psi+ runs!
Also guys, do NOT forget! This testing was all done with a STOCK exhaust! Wait until the flow restriction is all free... then more numbers to come hehe.
At this point, we are really just talking with #'s. I need to see this on the street. I'm just not convinced that a larger turbo with the Same amount of HP output is going to overtake a smaller faster spooling turbo with the same amount of HP output.
Your just going to have to convince me with a little action...
Prefereably with a race.... Coming to the ShootOut...
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Originally Posted by CSOCSO
btw already asked: the turbo pulling a lot when u driving 80mph???
NOT WHEN U FLOOR IT... when u just drive 80 mph... with cruise control or whatever...
NOT WHEN U FLOOR IT... when u just drive 80 mph... with cruise control or whatever...
If your just cruising, you will be in VAC. That's why I want Garage to make a vid of him cruising at like 60mph and THEN floor it. So we can see what this lag looks like in person.....(or video persay).
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bcnu_702 wrote:
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bcnu_702 wrote:
I'm sorry but I gotta chime in here. Walking over a Dodge Viper (550hp) is quite a feat in a 4 banger, even with a built motor. These cars run 11's stock all day any day...so yeah maybe the guy is slow on shifting, low 12's...still a nice kill with a small turbo!
Todd, I know you were being a smartass though so no harm, but I felt left out LOL
Small Turbos FTW!!!
The tC in question....IS fast enough to run 11's bro. GOD I swear, there is always someone to put their 2 cents in to say...."oh, he wasn't driving"....or...."he mis-shifted, you can hear it if you listen real close when the vid gets to 2:30 into it"...
Low 12's on a small turbo was done over 2 years ago WITHOUT a built motor...does that help in your doubt?
Maybe what I posted came across wrong. I was giving mad props to the tc and stating the same excuses you listed are lame at best! *waves white flag*
Don't mean to sound harsh either. Just it happens a lot when you post up something like that on the internet. Just read a few comments on Street Fire....it's the same old stuff being said.
i.e. When Kenny raced the Cobb Stage II WRX, and was right next to him.
Comments afterwards always follow the pattern of:
"WRX guy couldn't drive"
"WRX wasn't even on it, you can tell, cause it should be louder than that tC"
...stuff kinda gets old after a while.
So, apologize if I seemed a little short tempered.
Quote:
bcnu_702 wrote:
I'm sorry but I gotta chime in here. Walking over a Dodge Viper (550hp) is quite a feat in a 4 banger, even with a built motor. These cars run 11's stock all day any day...so yeah maybe the guy is slow on shifting, low 12's...still a nice kill with a small turbo!
Todd, I know you were being a smartass though so no harm, but I felt left out LOL
Small Turbos FTW!!!
The tC in question....IS fast enough to run 11's bro. GOD I swear, there is always someone to put their 2 cents in to say...."oh, he wasn't driving"....or...."he mis-shifted, you can hear it if you listen real close when the vid gets to 2:30 into it"...
Low 12's on a small turbo was done over 2 years ago WITHOUT a built motor...does that help in your doubt?
Maybe what I posted came across wrong. I was giving mad props to the tc and stating the same excuses you listed are lame at best! *waves white flag*
Don't mean to sound harsh either. Just it happens a lot when you post up something like that on the internet. Just read a few comments on Street Fire....it's the same old stuff being said.
i.e. When Kenny raced the Cobb Stage II WRX, and was right next to him.
Comments afterwards always follow the pattern of:
"WRX guy couldn't drive"
"WRX wasn't even on it, you can tell, cause it should be louder than that tC"
...stuff kinda gets old after a while.
So, apologize if I seemed a little short tempered.
"If your just cruising, you will be in VAC."
VAC? what do u mean?
btw i want 80 mph cruising vid.. i never cruising with 60mph.. only in school zone!!! :D j/k!!!
so.. 80mph cruising and how much the turbo is pulling.. i just want to know if im cruisin 80.. the turbo is gonna spin all the time really fast or not
VAC? what do u mean?
btw i want 80 mph cruising vid.. i never cruising with 60mph.. only in school zone!!! :D j/k!!!
so.. 80mph cruising and how much the turbo is pulling.. i just want to know if im cruisin 80.. the turbo is gonna spin all the time really fast or not
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Originally Posted by CSOCSO
"If your just cruising, you will be in VAC."
VAC? what do u mean?
btw i want 80 mph cruising vid.. i never cruising with 60mph.. only in school zone!!! :D j/k!!!
so.. 80mph cruising and how much the turbo is pulling.. i just want to know if im cruisin 80.. the turbo is gonna spin all the time really fast or not
VAC? what do u mean?
btw i want 80 mph cruising vid.. i never cruising with 60mph.. only in school zone!!! :D j/k!!!
so.. 80mph cruising and how much the turbo is pulling.. i just want to know if im cruisin 80.. the turbo is gonna spin all the time really fast or not
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A good quality turbo with a really good header feeding it will produce boost more efficiently and more power with less loading on the engine. Running 80mph is more than likely going to have that turbo spinning pretty fast but your throttle is going to be holding back the boost. If you have your boost gauge before the throttle body then you will see what is going on but apparently nobody is running a gauge there . . . just after the throttle body . . . makes me go hummmm . . . dual boost gauges!
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WHOA! Garage, your in AZ too!?
So let me get this strait. The only to EL manifolds are kits coming from AZ? And to think, I was thinking I wished I lived in FL or TN! AZ ain't to far from Vegas!
So let me get this strait. The only to EL manifolds are kits coming from AZ? And to think, I was thinking I wished I lived in FL or TN! AZ ain't to far from Vegas!
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WHOA! Garage, your in AZ too!?
So let me get this strait. The only to EL manifolds are kits coming from AZ? And to think, I was thinking I wished I lived in FL or TN! AZ ain't to far from Vegas!
So let me get this strait. The only to EL manifolds are kits coming from AZ? And to think, I was thinking I wished I lived in FL or TN! AZ ain't to far from Vegas!
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Wow! This is the first I've heard of that! Is that going to be on a small turbo, or a large one?
Can't wait to see the completed project.
I just noticed, that pic is from December '03! I guess they HAVE been working on it for a while
Can't wait to see the completed project.
I just noticed, that pic is from December '03! I guess they HAVE been working on it for a while
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That manifold is the one Full Race developed. Their are only two made so far. ZPI has the first one, and the Second one is on a 10 sec tC that was seen in the video in the F/I section. I believe the thread title is "Finally a Fast Streetable tC"....or something to that effect.
But yes, ZPI has been sitting on that manifold for a long time. It's finally about to be put to use...Probably into Brian's car (Customer car).
Secondly......PEOPLE....I can be cruising at 120mph, and STILL not be in boost. It doesn't matter what size the turbo is. If you are cruising, you will be in Vaccum. Unless you are Accelerating, THEN you will hit boost. But if you are just crusing, then your turbo is not boosting. When you give it some gas, turbo spools, and you hit boost.
So, 80mph cruise isn't going to be any different than 60mph cruise....You still will be in Vac.
But yes, ZPI has been sitting on that manifold for a long time. It's finally about to be put to use...Probably into Brian's car (Customer car).
Secondly......PEOPLE....I can be cruising at 120mph, and STILL not be in boost. It doesn't matter what size the turbo is. If you are cruising, you will be in Vaccum. Unless you are Accelerating, THEN you will hit boost. But if you are just crusing, then your turbo is not boosting. When you give it some gas, turbo spools, and you hit boost.
So, 80mph cruise isn't going to be any different than 60mph cruise....You still will be in Vac.
i see.. thanx for the answer.. btw im so sad.. i couldnt afford a turbo kit.. i still have to pay SOOOOO much K's on the car.... so much.. lol i didnt even started to pay off my car.. still paying the bank 
turbo? lol.. maybe when im gonna be like 30...
turbo? lol.. maybe when im gonna be like 30...
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Originally Posted by CSOCSO
i see.. thanx for the answer.. btw im so sad.. i couldnt afford a turbo kit.. i still have to pay SOOOOO much K's on the car.... so much.. lol i didnt even started to pay off my car.. still paying the bank
turbo? lol.. maybe when im gonna be like 30...
turbo? lol.. maybe when im gonna be like 30...
But hey, at least my cars paid off!
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Originally Posted by Garage1217
Travis, here is the main difference between a stage 1 log and this type of setup...
296whp at 8 psi on an uber safe tune
Simply put, a setup this efficient making this power at low boost will walk all over a log kit at the same psi or even 2-4 more psi running the 1320. Sure you guys spool much quicker with your tiny turbos and that probably makes it fun bouncing in and out of boost all the time like a lot of the oem setups, and yeah if you only race running through 1 quick gear and then lifting, then you may have some advantage unless the other driver knows what he is doing But were you actually drive a car when running it hard in the mid - high rpm range, the power output just is not available as a log style and tiny turbo is just not efficient enough. You guys can argue 2500rpm boost levels all you like, but once you have driven with a setup like this you will understand it is no toy and not somthing to poke a stick at. Power is focused exactly were I want it if I am running it hard, torque a monster. FAR more than I ever expected out of stock internals. Anyways who drives there car around at 2500-2800rpm? Auto tranny drivers? Come on guys! haha.
Another nice fact, 4200 rpm = 304ft lbs @ 10 psi running high 10's a/f wise with a lot of timing pulled for testing *LOL*
Something even more fun 296whp @ 8 psi on an uber safe tune, Intense is going to get her out of the uber safe testing tune and at 8 psi I guarantee she will be making a little over 300+ whp at low boost! Try to do that with a 16G and a log. I pretty much only see 230-250whp runs at this boost level.
I simply love the way she runs, does not bounce into and out of boost with cruise control on eating gas and does not have to bouce into boost while taking a small hill. Driving this baby is bliss, and I am happy to take a freeway vid of how she spools! I plan a lot of vids.
I also WELCOME the locals in az to come check it out, will take locals out for a spin that want to feel the difference in power. I have a local guy running a stage 0 zpi and a few local buds running dezod kits. I am happy to let them give there opinion at how this car runs at 8 psi compared to there own cars at 10psi hehe
Here is the uber safe dyno run at 10 psi with the intense power kit. Please post up all of your dyno runs here if you want a side by side comparison! Then, I will be posting up this kits 8 psi run vs your 10 psi+ runs!
Also guys, do NOT forget! This testing was all done with a STOCK exhaust! Wait until the flow restriction is all free... then more numbers to come hehe.
296whp at 8 psi on an uber safe tune
Simply put, a setup this efficient making this power at low boost will walk all over a log kit at the same psi or even 2-4 more psi running the 1320. Sure you guys spool much quicker with your tiny turbos and that probably makes it fun bouncing in and out of boost all the time like a lot of the oem setups, and yeah if you only race running through 1 quick gear and then lifting, then you may have some advantage unless the other driver knows what he is doing
But were you actually drive a car when running it hard in the mid - high rpm range, the power output just is not available as a log style and tiny turbo is just not efficient enough. You guys can argue 2500rpm boost levels all you like, but once you have driven with a setup like this you will understand it is no toy and not somthing to poke a stick at. Power is focused exactly were I want it if I am running it hard, torque a monster. FAR more than I ever expected out of stock internals. Anyways who drives there car around at 2500-2800rpm? Auto tranny drivers? Come on guys! haha.Another nice fact, 4200 rpm = 304ft lbs @ 10 psi running high 10's a/f wise with a lot of timing pulled for testing *LOL*
Something even more fun 296whp @ 8 psi on an uber safe tune, Intense is going to get her out of the uber safe testing tune and at 8 psi I guarantee she will be making a little over 300+ whp at low boost!
Try to do that with a 16G and a log. I pretty much only see 230-250whp runs at this boost level.I simply love the way she runs, does not bounce into and out of boost with cruise control on eating gas and does not have to bouce into boost while taking a small hill. Driving this baby is bliss, and I am happy to take a freeway vid of how she spools! I plan a lot of vids.
I also WELCOME the locals in az to come check it out, will take locals out for a spin that want to feel the difference in power. I have a local guy running a stage 0 zpi and a few local buds running dezod kits. I am happy to let them give there opinion at how this car runs at 8 psi compared to there own cars at 10psi hehe
Here is the uber safe dyno run at 10 psi with the intense power kit. Please post up all of your dyno runs here if you want a side by side comparison! Then, I will be posting up this kits 8 psi run vs your 10 psi+ runs!
Also guys, do NOT forget! This testing was all done with a STOCK exhaust! Wait until the flow restriction is all free... then more numbers to come hehe.
At this point, we are really just talking with #'s. I need to see this on the street. I'm just not convinced that a larger turbo with the Same amount of HP output is going to overtake a smaller faster spooling turbo with the same amount of HP output.
Your just going to have to convince me with a little action...
Prefereably with a race.... Coming to the ShootOut...
You can come out here and race in the heat anytime you like, tell me when your gonna roll out and I will be there! Will be a blast. Besides that. don't you guys mainly have crappy 1/8th mile tracks mainly..? What I heard anyways and that blows. Also the HP numbers are very very different in were the kits make power, they do not put out the exact same hp at the exact same points. Look at the graphs man, with the smaller turbos, you can clearly see the other effect a tiny quick spooling turbo has which is not so hot top end which is were you spend time playing when your running through gears. That is also why the company you pray to and love so much wanted to go to a manifold design such as the full race unit and run a larger turbo. They were not going to make all that happen with a log and a 16g haha!
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Originally Posted by CSOCSO
i see.. thanx for the answer.. btw im so sad.. i couldnt afford a turbo kit.. i still have to pay SOOOOO much K's on the car.... so much.. lol i didnt even started to pay off my car.. still paying the bank
turbo? lol.. maybe when im gonna be like 30...
turbo? lol.. maybe when im gonna be like 30...
But hey, at least my cars paid off!
Nice, that is a great feeling as I hold the title to mine as well
