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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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Default Supercharger and CAI - is it possible?

Hey all...I'm looking to make my supercharged tC faster. Is it possible to add a CAI to a supercharged engine? If not, what are some other ideas??
Old Dec 2, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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yes.
Old Dec 2, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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Is it really useful, other than being a filter? I'm not being smart-@$$ed, I'm really asking.
Old Dec 2, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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maybe... supposed to draw cooler air from inside the fender.. sure.

crazy big difference? probably not.
Old Dec 2, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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I think it will help a little since going through the supercharger makes the air ultra hot. I don't think you'll feel it much though ... but you get a cool sound, haha.
Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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Haha...well I've already got that "cool sound" thanx to the supercharger!

Ok...so, if I CAN add a CAI, where do I get one that'll fit to the supercharger?? the blower obviously draws from the filter, and with that supercharger under the hood, there isn't much room for a standard sized CAI.

Has anyone found a solution to my problem?? i.e....you have a supercharger AND a CAI?

THanks for the help...
Old Dec 3, 2006 | 02:22 AM
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Is it safe to put a CAI on the S/C? I read somewhere that the A/F ration leans out with CAI.
Old Dec 3, 2006 | 03:31 AM
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The CAI will have to be custom made.
Old Dec 3, 2006 | 06:56 AM
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You can make your own CAI from Spectre's Power-adderr kit, they have bent pieces straight pieces (or use a flexible tube) and even a piece for the MAF. You can buy the pieces online or pick them up at pepboys/autozone/checker/advantage(?)/ whatever your local car shop is called.
However, I have also heard that the CAI on a S/C leads to too lean of a mixture and based on that I would not recommend that you pursue this idea, as it may lead to sputtering, stalling and maybe throw a CEL.

So have fun and tell us what happens if you end up doing this (don't take my help with the CAI as an indicator that this is a good idea I don't think it is unless you have the means to correct the problems that might arise).
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spectre = teh suck
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Spectre is good for N/A applications. It won't hold boost though - you don't want to go from the SC to the Throttle body with spectre piping.

If you do a search, you'll see that CAI's on SC's lean out on the A/F ratio using the TRD ECU Map. I'd only do it with fuel management. Without it, you'd probably do damage to your engine.
Old Dec 3, 2006 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by krdshrk
Spectre is good for N/A applications. It won't hold boost though - you don't want to go from the SC to the Throttle body with spectre piping.

If you do a search, you'll see that CAI's on SC's lean out on the A/F ratio using the TRD ECU Map. I'd only do it with fuel management. Without it, you'd probably do damage to your engine.
I wouldn't boost a car without fuel management S/C-Turbo, etc.. Too easy to enter a lean condition.. + when you have fuel management at least you have something to fight Scion's combative 64bit ECU
Old Dec 3, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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superblue said that he noticed a bigger diff than when he done a new exhaust....
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its not a good idea to add a CAI and not hav something to tune with. when im done with my finals, im gonna try to fit my injen cai on and finally tune
Old Dec 4, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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Ok...

So sounds like I'll be scratching the SC/CAI idea...I definitely want to stay away from leaning out the A/F mixture. (I'll be sending back the Injen CAI I ordered last week...)

What are some good alternatives to boosting HP?
Old Dec 4, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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05-RS1...

was looking at your profile...you got some nice upgrades done performance-wise (i.e. headers and such). would you reccomend them to others, or...
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Headers and exhaust should help a little.
Old Dec 4, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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Get a wideband 02 and then try upgrades. The TRD supercharger is still rather new and parts are still being tried and tested. So go get a wideband 02 and pave some trails for us.
Old Dec 4, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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umm recommend what part exactly? and depends more one what ur lookin for..

header, if u got money and want to get the most out of them, then the MMW 4-2-1 should be the way to go..i bought the AW header couple months before word about the MMW header even came out. but im pretty satisfied with the 4-1 header. i took the header off when i went to get the s/c warrantied and there is a noticeable difference when header on and header off with the s/c. while the header was off, i decided to get it coated by swayntech, and the temperature reduction is amazing! CAI before s/c i didnt feel much of a difference but it does improve performance (jus not enough for u to feel it lol). umm draxas s-pipe is a great piece. i wanted a quiet exhaust so i got the sp2. bought the 2.5" midpipe from kytc, it has 2 resonators on it to quiet the exhaust with the header on. btw, i wouldnt recommend any header + trd exhaust combo. its jus grossly loud..might be some ppl's cup of tea but not mine.

hope this helps!
Old Dec 4, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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Hey yeah, thanks...

I DO have the TRD exhaust...maybe a mistake if I'm considering the upgraded header? I think I'm willing to experiment with the "grossly loud" sound the 4-2-1 header-to-TRD exhaust will provide...but if you like a modest exhaust sound as much as I do...maybe I shouldn't do it.

Still looking for the right product I guess.



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