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Old 04-04-2007, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jetlounge
I've heard conflicting stories on joining PCV and breather, so I opted to keep them separate. Still all the same bits and pieces, just with a filter in between them now.
it really isnt though...

on a stock tc, the pcv is in constant vacuum, but now in your FI tC, the pcv is under boost alot of the time, so it has trouble venting properly... you need to move the outlet to a source of constant vaccuum...
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i thought the prob was that the pcv on the tC leaked boost...
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Originally Posted by jetlounge
i thought the prob was that the pcv on the tC leaked boost...
never heard that one before... its a possibility though...

but the main problem is the boost isnt alowing the blow-by to fully escape from the pcv
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but is that necessarily a bad thing? pcv closed means boost held. pcv left constantly open means boost leak, right?
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Originally Posted by jetlounge
but is that necessarily a bad thing? pcv closed means boost held. pcv left constantly open means boost leak, right?
the pcv is one way, it only lets stuff out, but if there is boost in the line, the pcv will stay closed and blowby will not vent from the engine.
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Originally Posted by mike6789k
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but is that necessarily a bad thing? pcv closed means boost held. pcv left constantly open means boost leak, right?
the pcv is one way, it only lets stuff out, but if there is boost in the line, the pcv will stay closed and blowby will not vent from the engine.
Which in my opinion is the cause of every destroyed motor that was running a supercharger.
For informations sake: what happens when blow-by isn't properly ventilated? Can sludge build-up contaminate the fuel?
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ok so do we really need to can up both the lines?
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but is that necessarily a bad thing? pcv closed means boost held. pcv left constantly open means boost leak, right?
the pcv is one way, it only lets stuff out, but if there is boost in the line, the pcv will stay closed and blowby will not vent from the engine.
Which in my opinion is the cause of every destroyed motor that was running a supercharger.
For informations sake: what happens when blow-by isn't properly ventilated? Can sludge build-up contaminate the fuel?
every "destroyed" motor that was running an s/c??
there are many documented poorly installed s/c's..but destroyed motors? how many do you count of those?
i think you are making a huge leap here.
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yea lol you dont destroy motors with a clogged pcv... but you can cause some problems...
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Originally Posted by mike6789k
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but is that necessarily a bad thing? pcv closed means boost held. pcv left constantly open means boost leak, right?
the pcv is one way, it only lets stuff out, but if there is boost in the line, the pcv will stay closed and blowby will not vent from the engine.
i don't think its only one way. thats the intention, but under boost it will get pushed. and you'll lose a little hp.
this is most likely why when some have capped the nipple on the intake mani and routed the PCV out to vaccum they got a little more oomph...not because pcv vapor couldn't get out before the cap off, but because boost was pushing in.

so a PCV for boosted applications would be in order..and a better vac solution for the breather. air will take the path of least resistance.
at the end of the day, the catch can is just a bandaid to the blow-by problem
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I've been through two motors myself and destroyed a couple cats, which from what I understand is caused by a lean condition...hence the question, can blow-by cause sludge build-up, contaminate your fuel, lower your octane, cause detonation, destroy a cat...etc. etc.
There hasn't been many but it has happened. Look at Equinox. Where does the oil go that seems to disappear? I am just looking for an explanation.
Once again I've been through two motors both of which were missing 45 psi in hole #3. How do you lean out a motor with the "safe" TRD map? I'm not trying to argue I am just dying to know. Is there a difference in the dynamic between a turbo and supercharger when it comes to blow-by?
These threads led to such assumtions:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...ighlight=catch
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...ighlight=catch
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cats are destroyed by rich conditions
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who needs cats anyways?
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Originally Posted by mike6789k
cats are destroyed by rich conditions
Even stranger. . .
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Originally Posted by Wyatt_Herb
Originally Posted by mike6789k
cats are destroyed by rich conditions
Even stranger. . .
yeah. i always thought cats were destroyed by dogs.
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Originally Posted by blackonblacktc
who needs cats anyways?
Thats what i say
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Originally Posted by jetlounge
Originally Posted by Wyatt_Herb
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cats are destroyed by rich conditions
Even stranger. . .
yeah. i always thought cats were destroyed by dogs.
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I don't know if this will help because it's on a turbo setup?


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Originally Posted by fox
I don't know if this will help because it's on a turbo setup?


thats the idea... but the PCV would be a better choice to use instead of the breather (which doesnt NEED a vacuum source and could just be VTA
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hate to resurrect a thread but i need to install a catch can as well.

my cat just died. (that sounds sad)

but yeah, its getting replaced now. and a quart of oil magically disappeared. ive only been s/c for about a month. 3000 miles-ish.

helpful info guys!
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