Notices
Scion tC 1G Forced Induction Turbo and supercharger applications...

Is there anyone with a Roots type S/C??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-09-2009, 03:57 PM
  #41  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
B_Real45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: South Florida
Posts: 2,603
Default

Originally Posted by engifineer
I know plenty of Miata owners that LOVE theirs. If a maker has poor quality, that has nothing to do with the style. I know a miata running over 300 whp on his and loves every bit of it
Fully built internals I imagine with a roots on a Miata. There are plenty with turbos that make that power on a stock engine.
B_Real45 is offline  
Old 01-09-2009, 04:07 PM
  #42  
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
howiedds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 520
Default

ok, if you think its "cool"..you do it! No ones gonna waste their time and money to do it....
howiedds is offline  
Old 01-09-2009, 04:15 PM
  #43  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
chintastictc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Valley Stream, NY
Posts: 1,049
Default

Originally Posted by howiedds
ok, if you think its "cool"..you do it! No ones gonna waste their time and money to do it....
cuz im a broke college student....i can bet my life someone will do it...its a scion..there is no never...thas just your opinion that its a waste..if your intentions are road courses then this supercharger would be an excellent option...
chintastictc is offline  
Old 01-09-2009, 04:18 PM
  #44  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
teamNJCT
Fresh Crew
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
CarbonXe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Parsippany, NJ
Posts: 16,646
Default

Our motors are small enough to not have to worry about lag. I sure as hell didn't feel any lag in the PTuning Time Attack tC when I was in it at Summit Point.
CarbonXe is offline  
Old 01-09-2009, 04:57 PM
  #45  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
teamNJCT
Fresh Crew
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
CarbonXe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Parsippany, NJ
Posts: 16,646
Default

Originally Posted by B_Real45
Originally Posted by engifineer
I know plenty of Miata owners that LOVE theirs. If a maker has poor quality, that has nothing to do with the style. I know a miata running over 300 whp on his and loves every bit of it
Fully built internals I imagine with a roots on a Miata. There are plenty with turbos that make that power on a stock engine.
Pfft, who needs turbo chargers or super chargers when you can have an LS1?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1SuQ...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbE99O-rbLY&NR=1
CarbonXe is offline  
Old 01-09-2009, 05:14 PM
  #46  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
B_Real45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: South Florida
Posts: 2,603
Default

Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Originally Posted by B_Real45
Originally Posted by engifineer
I know plenty of Miata owners that LOVE theirs. If a maker has poor quality, that has nothing to do with the style. I know a miata running over 300 whp on his and loves every bit of it
Fully built internals I imagine with a roots on a Miata. There are plenty with turbos that make that power on a stock engine.
Pfft, who needs turbo chargers or super chargers when you can have an LS1?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1SuQ...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbE99O-rbLY&NR=1
Well we're talking about something that's practical... lol. LS1 is nice, but you also have to rethink your suspension with all that added weight.

Fieros are good cars for LS1's too.
B_Real45 is offline  
Old 01-09-2009, 05:49 PM
  #47  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
teamNJCT
Fresh Crew
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
CarbonXe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Parsippany, NJ
Posts: 16,646
Default

Originally Posted by B_Real45
Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Originally Posted by B_Real45
Originally Posted by engifineer
I know plenty of Miata owners that LOVE theirs. If a maker has poor quality, that has nothing to do with the style. I know a miata running over 300 whp on his and loves every bit of it
Fully built internals I imagine with a roots on a Miata. There are plenty with turbos that make that power on a stock engine.
Pfft, who needs turbo chargers or super chargers when you can have an LS1?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1SuQ...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbE99O-rbLY&NR=1
Well we're talking about something that's practical... lol. LS1 is nice, but you also have to rethink your suspension with all that added weight.

Fieros are good cars for LS1's too.
Apparently the car still maintained a 50/50 weight distribution. The LS1 is a VERY lightweight motor for its size. It only weighs in around 400lbs. Granted it really isn't very practical, considering an LS1 alone will cost you up to $10,000, but it's a great motor.

There was a swap done on an R34 for drifting, and compared to the RB26, the bigger LS1 weighed almost 100lbs less.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdECAZjrvLE
CarbonXe is offline  
Old 01-09-2009, 05:51 PM
  #48  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
B_Real45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: South Florida
Posts: 2,603
Default

That's incredible if true...

So that means an LS1 would weigh as much as the stock Miata motor??
B_Real45 is offline  
Old 01-09-2009, 05:53 PM
  #49  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
teamNJCT
Fresh Crew
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
CarbonXe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Parsippany, NJ
Posts: 16,646
Default

Originally Posted by B_Real45
That's incredible if true...

So that means an LS1 would weigh as much as the stock Miata motor??
I believe it weighs a little bit more, but it's probably very close. Cast iron weighs a lot compared to aluminum.
CarbonXe is offline  
Old 01-09-2009, 06:20 PM
  #50  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
teamNJCT
Fresh Crew
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
CarbonXe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Parsippany, NJ
Posts: 16,646
Default

http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...oject-pix.html

They talk about how the vehicle maintained roughly the same weight/weight distribution after the swap. I'm sure they removed a ton of other stuff from the engine bay, but what's the point in ABS if you're making a V8 Miata .
CarbonXe is offline  
Old 01-09-2009, 07:59 PM
  #51  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Scikotics
SL Member
 
engifineer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 9,731
Default

Originally Posted by B_Real45
Originally Posted by engifineer
I know plenty of Miata owners that LOVE theirs. If a maker has poor quality, that has nothing to do with the style. I know a miata running over 300 whp on his and loves every bit of it
Fully built internals I imagine with a roots on a Miata. There are plenty with turbos that make that power on a stock engine.
He finally blew the motor (this is a dedicated autox car) this season.. replaced it with another used motor out of a salvage yard.. The one he blew had over 125,000 miles when he first built up the sc to produce that power. I am not sure exactly how much building he did.. but I know he didnt fully build it. They are fairly strong motors believe it or not. Of course, this is not a daily driver .. it is trailored to autox events. It is not remotely street legal


And it is an incredible autox car... gutted, 1900 lbs, 10.5 " wide slicks, etc.. not much touches it in xp.
engifineer is offline  
Old 01-09-2009, 08:06 PM
  #52  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Scikotics
SL Member
 
engifineer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 9,731
Default

Plenty of people have looked at putting a small block in the tC I know if I had another tc sitting around, the extra money and space (and time) I would be tempted to do so.

But, in the tC, the best place for it would be in place of the back seat with a transaxle to drive the rear wheels. Tons of work and a lot of dough.. but one helluva car. Even if you just used a typical 350. Heavier.. but you can build a 350 fairly cheap and you can make more NA power than you would ever need in this car. A ZZ350 crate motor will push over 350 hp out of the box.. with a ton of room for wiggle :D That would be the little brother to the ZZ572 (600 - 700 hp NA) I would love to put in a larger car .... I just need to come across a winning lottery ticket and I am set on both projects...
engifineer is offline  
Old 01-09-2009, 08:09 PM
  #53  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
teamNJCT
Fresh Crew
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
CarbonXe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Parsippany, NJ
Posts: 16,646
Default

Originally Posted by engifineer
Plenty of people have looked at putting a small block in the tC I know if I had another tc sitting around, the extra money and space (and time) I would be tempted to do so.

But, in the tC, the best place for it would be in place of the back seat with a transaxle to drive the rear wheels. Tons of work and a lot of dough.. but one helluva car. Even if you just used a typical 350. Heavier.. but you can build a 350 fairly cheap and you can make more NA power than you would ever need in this car. A ZZ350 crate motor will push over 350 hp out of the box.. with a ton of room for wiggle :D That would be the little brother to the ZZ572 (600 - 700 hp NA) I would love to put in a larger car .... I just need to come across a winning lottery ticket and I am set on both projects...
I've been severely contemplating it for a while. I have a gutted tC with no motor sitting in my driveway. The rightful owner has yet to pick it up, but I have no clue wtf is going on with it. I was contacted by another person about it, and they said they've already done the measurements to put a 350 in it.

If I had the money to throw at it, I'd put an LS1 into it in a heartbeat.
CarbonXe is offline  
Old 01-09-2009, 08:10 PM
  #54  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
B_Real45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: South Florida
Posts: 2,603
Default

Originally Posted by engifineer
Originally Posted by B_Real45
Originally Posted by engifineer
I know plenty of Miata owners that LOVE theirs. If a maker has poor quality, that has nothing to do with the style. I know a miata running over 300 whp on his and loves every bit of it
Fully built internals I imagine with a roots on a Miata. There are plenty with turbos that make that power on a stock engine.
He finally blew the motor (this is a dedicated autox car) this season.. replaced it with another used motor out of a salvage yard.. The one he blew had over 125,000 miles when he first built up the sc to produce that power. I am not sure exactly how much building he did.. but I know he didnt fully build it. They are fairly strong motors believe it or not. Of course, this is not a daily driver .. it is trailored to autox events. It is not remotely street legal


And it is an incredible autox car... gutted, 1900 lbs, 10.5 " wide slicks, etc.. not much touches it in xp.
Jeebus... sounds like an amazing little car.
B_Real45 is offline  
Old 10-06-2009, 03:25 PM
  #55  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
chintastictc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Valley Stream, NY
Posts: 1,049
Default

hey anyone give it a go yet? lol im dyin to see a tC whine...not whistle like the weak trd supercharger....cmon somebody try it already!!!!!!
chintastictc is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rvascion
Maintenance & Car Care
6
11-12-2020 03:23 AM
yupinmytC
Scion tC 1G Drivetrain & Power
21
11-08-2019 09:34 AM
Darrenohooligan
PPC: Suspension / Brakes
0
09-26-2015 07:21 AM
SJMiller
Scion xB 2nd-Gen Owners Lounge
0
09-12-2015 06:33 PM
BlingSlade
Scion xB 1st-Gen Owners Lounge
0
09-05-2015 08:52 AM



Quick Reply: Is there anyone with a Roots type S/C??



All times are GMT. The time now is 02:17 AM.