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Old 07-31-2011, 02:52 AM
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After reading you post I started thinking a little more there has to be a better way to do this and keep the coast donw i ran a cross this kit. Want to know what u think??? It Water to Air so there wouldnt need to change the hood, even though im doing it any way.

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Originally Posted by speedy000
correct me if im wrong but front mount > top mount...this is why all the subi drivers change it to front mount anyway..
fabing up a turbo intercooler kit to a s/c kit shouldnt be to bad.
You are VERY wrong. Subaru guys (who know what they are doing) will keep the TMIC for a long time, its only if you do a sever upgrade to a huge turbo/rotated turbo that a front mount is suggested. People think a front mount means "ZOMG MAX AIR TO AIR COOLING" but a TMIC, especially on a subaru means quick, efficient cooling. Less piping=more hp.

OP. You could do anything, but I don't see it really being worth much of your time and money, especially on an s/c.
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Originally Posted by Spicy_McHaggiz
You are VERY wrong. Subaru guys (who know what they are doing) will keep the TMIC for a long time, its only if you do a sever upgrade to a huge turbo/rotated turbo that a front mount is suggested. People think a front mount means "ZOMG MAX AIR TO AIR COOLING" but a TMIC, especially on a subaru means quick, efficient cooling. Less piping=more hp.

OP. You could do anything, but I don't see it really being worth much of your time and money, especially on an s/c.
Ok I agree with you on the top mount part. But i have really be doing a lot of reading and looking around and searching. I think Water to air is going to be the best rout. It not that exspansive only going to run me $300 after it said and done.

But I would have to disagree about it not being worth it. im going to be running 12psi, with that much of hot air really seems dumb to me not to have any type of cooling at all lol. If you going to force that much air or any air for that matter the colder the better!!!
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Originally Posted by motoxxx87
I totally love that intercooler that u showed me. Makeing the bends is tottal going to be easyer then what i was looking at. But the STI can do it with a vented hood we should be able to do it as well. I think the STI have a water sprayer that puts water on the intercool aswell but I dont see a problem with it we shale see though.

What did u do for cooling???
You could use the one I linked with a vented hood, you would need to fab something to the bottom of the hood to channel the air into the core. You would most likely have to do the same for the sti top mount though since it is made to fit a certain layout. With the sti cooler I'm not sure if the piping under the cooler would fit.

I went with a w/m injection kit, but I am worried about tuning with it and then it failing.
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Originally Posted by motoxxx87
Ok I agree with you on the top mount part. But i have really be doing a lot of reading and looking around and searching. I think Water to air is going to be the best rout. It not that exspansive only going to run me $300 after it said and done.

But I would have to disagree about it not being worth it. im going to be running 12psi, with that much of hot air really seems dumb to me not to have any type of cooling at all lol. If you going to force that much air or any air for that matter the colder the better!!!
The w2a coolers you posted are a couple of the mock-ups I made when looking into that type of system. There are pros/cons of each set up, so hopefully you have done your homework.
From what I've learned here, cooling your intake is necessary above 10psi.
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Originally Posted by syberspyder
The w2a coolers you posted are a couple of the mock-ups I made when looking into that type of system. There are pros/cons of each set up, so hopefully you have done your homework.
From what I've learned here, cooling your intake is necessary above 10psi.
Right on that's what I heard as well since I'm going to run the NST 12 pound Pully cooling will be needed
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]Iv dove A few mock up now to see what will work and what wont this is what i kinda came up with it looks like it should work I will be try soon as i get the funds
Please dont dog my paint art work lol not to good at it lol
So all piping is 2.5 and i will do a parts list of everything i use in case any one else wants a intercooler on there SC

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Let me know what you guys think
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I think you should just keep it simple and do air to air with a nice scoop and a heat shield on the underside.
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Originally Posted by motoxxx87
Let me know what you guys think
I think with that amount of piping you're going to lose some boost. I think you'd be better off with the cores you posted before(same side i/o). The only issue with a same side is you have to position it over the valve cover and probably have to remove the plastic cover(then worry about heat soak).
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i'm just curious as to what you're going to do to direct air to it.
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I dont think im going to lose that much boost the guys running frontmount say that they lose 2-3 psi in there piping. What i kinda came up with im thinking ill lose .5-1 psi of boost 1.5 at the max im ok with that. The intercoolers I was looking at earlyer wont work even with the plastic cover removed, all intercoolers i saw are 4.5 high the car has 3.5 of room form the valve cover to the hood witch is tapering down.

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I think with that amount of piping you're going to lose some boost. I think you'd be better off with the cores you posted before(same side i/o). The only issue with a same side is you have to position it over the valve cover and probably have to remove the plastic cover(then worry about heat soak).
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Originally Posted by motoxxx87
What i kinda came up with im thinking ill lose .5-1 psi of boost 1.5 at the max im ok with that.
I was also thinking between .5-1psi as well. I think a better pipe routing would be shorter hot side piping(switch what you have drawn). This would be less piping heating up, less travel for the air to heat soak, resulting in more efficient cooling.

*This is just a theory, if anyone has tested this, chime in.
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why not source a factory subaru IC?
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Originally Posted by Syldrin
i'm just curious as to what you're going to do to direct air to it.
Originally Posted by Syldrin
why not source a factory subaru IC?
He has decided to do a w2a setup, the subi tmic was his original idea.
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I totally agree with the W2A I/C idea, I am working at www.frozenboost.com to figure out how to put together a good kit that will not only fit under the hood but also provide enough cooling to manage my system now and in the future.

I've found that if you either move your battery to the back of the car or get a braille type battery there is a nice cubby area in the front drivers side of the engine bay that will house the W2A unit which will allow for an easy front mount for the radiator.

Using a W2A will minimize boost lag and loss, plus it can be a much more stable cooling system vs A2A cooling.
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Dose any one else have any other pics or ideas of a intercool on a SC
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Watching this one. Should be interesting to see where it goes.
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